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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by sangnoir »

jacksonkmarley wrote: post #533
newacct583 wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Parler was ground zero for the community that announced and executed the attack on the capitol. Thought leaders there were routinely evoking, imagining, and outright calling for violence, and the crowd was a feedback loop. Fundamentally the Parler community existed to provide a platform for people who had been already banned from Twitter. Frankly the peaceful use of the site was mostly incidental. I think there's a r…

Well, there's this from Glenn Greenwald: > Do you know how many of the people arrested in connection with the Capitol invasion were active users of Parler? > Zero. > The planning was largely done on Facebook. [0] https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1348619731734028293?s=... edit: bad formatting

Where did he get his data from to assert that with confidence? Also, how many people had been arrested in total at the time of Glenn's tweet - I have a feeling the number is going to go way up, and with Parler data becoming public, it will be easy to disprove his assertion (which may be technically true, but has low information density)

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by berryjerry »

sdenton4 wrote: post #479
liminal wrote: post #420

I see a number of people here describing Parler as "unmoderated", but it turns out they do have extensive moderation [1] that they use to ensure ideological conformity in their posts. Then the most active users were paid for their content too [2]. This really makes it more of a propaganda weapon than a free speech platform. [1] https://twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1347939939120533506 [2] https://twitter.com/donk_enby…

This really is the rule, not the exception. Every time I've deigned to wade into conservative "free-speech" zones I've been booted out for ideological nonconformity. Tolerance is a peace treaty: https://extranewsfeed.com/tolerance-is-not-a-moral-precept-1...

You still cannot threaten physical violence. This imaginary prospect that 'free speech' includes threats is stupid. And of course any individual still can block you. It is literally the same as Twitter.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by VikingCoder »

hartator wrote: post #536
marcinzm wrote: post #499

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The following was requested and provided, please stop changing the goal post when you're called out. > single post > on Parler > calling for mass executions

You’re replying to someone else. I still think these are not legit death threats by the content of it. Saying things like “a good commie is a dead a commie” might be tasteless but it’s far from being a serious thing. No one is killing communists in the US.

I'm not sure if you saw my reply on a separate part of this thread:

https://imgur.com/gallery/nHb2lO8

Those are legit death threats. Including from a lawyer associated with the President.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by jimcsharp »

NikolaeVarius wrote: post #228
rob74 wrote: post #202

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To be fair, it's probably hard for a network like Parler to attract top talent. I mean, they explicitly advertised themselves as the "free speech social network" (i.e. "all hate speech welcome, we won't censor anyone except maybe Trump parody accounts") - would you want to work for such a company, or have it on your resume in the future?

Yes? I wouldn't work for Parler, but I fail to see how the phrase "free speech social network" should elicit some negative emotion. Parler sucks because they are a haven to right wing extremists, not because of their marketing. Its like being angry at Signal because their encryption allows terrorists communicate securely.

Everywhere I go, I feel like I have free speech by default. I suppose it's my privilege that I feel like that, but I digress. When free speech is explicitly advertised, it smells.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by hannasanarion »

mleonhard wrote: post #580
macintux wrote: post #541

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Those Congresspeople were responding to, and enabling, the same terrorists. These are not two separate discussions.

Can you please explain how they were enabling the terrorists? Did the congresspeople get the Capitol Police to stand down? Even if they did, that is a separate thing from throwing out votes. The country could have terrorist acts every day and still have democracy. Our congresspeople could have their meetings in an underground bunker, wear body armor all the time, and travel in armored vehicles, and it would still be…

Lauren Boebert was livetweeting the location of Pence and Pelosi so that the mob could "get her".

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by VikingCoder »

marcinzm wrote: post #494
mittermayr wrote: post #476

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Since a "single post" has been provided by someone now, it would be nice to see you give them the decency and acknowledge it. There are so many comments here, and they all read in the same way, "well, what about..." and "show me proof" — only for someone to actually go and spend the time to respond, and then be ignored quietly. Discussions here (political ones) feel so childish, I wish we'd be better as a community o…

Personally, when I discuss politics online I don't expect the other person to acknowledge anything. My audience is all the people on the fence lurking and reading and forming opinions on the topic.

Agreed.

I will admit that it's draining, talking to one user who keeps moving the goal-posts.

And I will then say that I think it's their intention to drain people like me.

So I try to shrug it off and keep refuting arguments with the evidence they pretend they will be convinced by.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by nether »

mellosouls wrote: post #71

"researchers". Imagine what they'd be called if this was Reddit, Twitter or a non-conservative site they'd hacked.

We don't have to imagine. The other side is calling them "left extremists": https://mobile.twitter.com/donk_enby/status/1348484125825658...

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by [deleted] »

grawprog wrote: post #526

>In a press release announcing the decision, Twilio revealed which services Parler was using. This information allowed hackers to deduct that it was possible to create users and verified accounts without actual verification. >With this type of access, newly minted users were able to get behind the login box API used for content delivery. That allowed them to see which users had moderator rights and this in turn allow…

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Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by wetmore »

dx87 wrote: post #566
estomagordo wrote: post #426

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So let's start by looking at Hacker News. Where on HN can we see people plotting mass executions like that?

In the initial post about the Capitol being shut down,t here were people saying that everyone who broke into the capitol building needed to be tried for treason and executed, or saying that the police should have opened fire and killed anyone who broke in. The mods removed the comments, but HN isn't some paragon of virtue that isn't susceptible to the same calls for violence as any other site.

Mods removing those comments sort of proves that HN isn't a safe haven for the calls for violence.

Re: 70TB of Parler users’ messages, videos, and posts leaked by security researchers

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Post by WalterSear »

rob74 wrote: post #410
NikolaeVarius wrote: post #228

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Yes? I wouldn't work for Parler, but I fail to see how the phrase "free speech social network" should elicit some negative emotion. Parler sucks because they are a haven to right wing extremists, not because of their marketing. Its like being angry at Signal because their encryption allows terrorists communicate securely.

Well, free speech is a good thing, if done responsibly. In practice though, "free speech" as used by Parler means no moderation at all, so the most blatant lies and the craziest conspiracy theories can run unchecked. And since mainstream platforms are cracking down on extremists, your platform will inevitably become a haven (and echo chamber) for them, even if you didn't intend to be one.

There was/is extremely heavy moderation on Parler.
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