Stripe bans Trump campaign

Post by lsiebert » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:10 AM UTC

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Self-preservation was certainly a part of why there was inaction, as was financial motive. I also think they were rather naïve about their roles & responsibilities and the real world consequence of their own platforms, as well as lacking in a sophisticated understanding of how to do content moderation or even politics. These topics are both very old (social organizing, radicalization, usenet), and very new (primary m…

In their defense, I agree with you that this is a first time when global internet connectivity + social media + hatespeech cocktail has become poisonous to our societal health. We need to deeply think about all this - allowing peaceful, objective, conservative opinions and policy (such as the Lincoln Project) while condemning hate speech, violence, white supremacy and other racist behavior. "He who fights with monste…

Post by im3w1l » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:11 AM UTC

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I buy this argument as the law currently stands, but this is also such a moral double standard (Colorado bakery for instance). Also, how far do we go with this reasoning? Stripe and PayPal refuse service so they're supposed to "Go build their own" (it costs billions to create a new service like stripe or PayPal that can compare). AWS shut you down? Build your own data center... (Again, costs millions or billions). Wh…

>What happens if the party in power next decides to attack religious organizations who congregate during that pandemic with the same type of concerted de-platforming? I didn't realize that Stripe's actions were due to a government order. Probably because they weren't. You're conflating a private organization's decisions with government action. If the government were to attempt do as you suggest, the courts would slap…

Post by refurb » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:13 AM UTC

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It's entertaining how the left was so critical of the use of the word "terrorist" when talking about the War on Terror, but then immediately started throwing it around when it politically expedient.

The FBI says one the biggest threats is domestic terrorism. > In recent years, federal authorities have described American extremists as the most urgent terror threat to the country and beefed up resources against them, carrying out a wave of prosecutions this year to head off potential violence as the presidential election approached. https://www.propublica.org/article/domestic-terrorism-a-more...

Post by npunt » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:13 AM UTC

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On the other hand, avoiding conflict in the short-term will only embolden those who create and thrive on conflict. For these types of people, their next move is usually to escalate. You see this with bullies, abusive relationships, rapists, serial killers, terrorists, etc. They learn what they can get away with, they like the power it gives them, and they try something more. Therefore, we can't make decisions based o…

Nobody is saying “don’t arrest and prosecute the people who invaded the Capitol”. This is about the campaign finance/social media account/etc of the current sitting POTUS. You don’t need to condone the actions of the Capitol terrorists to take issue with him being banned from every platform having committed no crime (or at least, not having been convicted of any crime). A few hundred people invaded the Capitol, but t…

Post by trhway » Mon, Jan 11, 2021, 5:14 AM UTC