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Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Well, there IS a pandemic. So there IS a good reason for "selling it" "a bit hard". It will literally save lives and end a world-wide economy-crippling disease. Now I agree the process was quicker than usual, that it brings up a lot of questions. But it's the studies we should question, the efficiency, the long term effects. The way it's sold and "advertised" is just equally as dramatic as the disease it's trying to…

"It will" is a strong choice of words. The root of the matter is I don't, personally, trust the people doing the selling. It varies by region but where I'm from, back in April-ish, we were sold: "just two weeks of lockdowns and the virus will die out! everything will be back to normal!". So we did. Businesses shut down, transit basically stopped running, our downtown core was a wasteland. Everyone parroted "stay safe…

Out of curiosity, where are you from, that you were told the virus would "die out" after just two weeks of lockdowns?

And also, can you back your claims that the spring lockdowns "didn't do shit"? That's not at all what the numbers show.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Why would I read the FAQ if I don't have any questions?

For questions you don’t know you have. I read the iperf man page earlier for laughs, discovered the -B option which I’d forgotten existed.

Manuals make sense to read to learn something. I'm not going to seek out an FAQ unless I have a question. I guess I don't like FAQs in general. They're usually not really FAQs, but more of disorganized manual.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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People voting for NO, whats your main point?

One reason I've seen is that the companies behind the vaccine have not actually disclosed how the mRNA gets inside the cell. They have said its some type of nanoparticle lipid mixture that is able to get inside your cells, but they haven't disclosed publicly or to the review panels what it actually is or how its made, since its proprietary tech. [0] Back in 2017, Moderna was taking a similar approach, wrapping the mRNA in lipid nanoparticles, but found that it had safety issues, and never made it to human trials. [1] Hopefully they have fixed their problems, but nothing I've seen has outright proven that its safe over the long term.

Personally, I can kind of understand this reasoning, I would prefer to know exactly what is going into my body and how its made, and that information should absolutely be made open. Something I also wonder is that moderna had a bunch of mRNA vaccines set to go to human trials, and I wonder where they went. [2]

[0] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7553041/

[1] https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

[2] https://www.biospace.com/article/why-secretive-5-billion-bio...

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Immunity from having COVID lasts about 3 months, it seems. Immunity from the vaccine will last for a year or more and will still work as expected even if you had COVID. “I’ve had COVID” is a bad reason to refuse the vaccine.

Mind to share sources about the immunity lasting only 3 months? From what I read, Corona-virii are in general slow to mutate and infected people should be immune for a longer time. Also, not to sound like a conspiracy theorist, but this idea that a vaccine should neatly work in a way that it would be recommended to take it on every season smells of a pharma PR submarine.

It comes from a misunderstanding: antibodies last around that long, but so far no one's T-Cells have stopped reacting to the virus. Immunity lasting only as long as the antibodies is also how I understood it to work until mid-summer.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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Why take a vaccine for something healthy people like me fight off in a day or two? It doesn't make sense. I can take a Zinc tablet, and some Vitamin D, or HCQ, etc. Now older and sicker people should think otherwise, or those who interact regularly with those populations. And yes, I know asymptomatics allegedly, potentially, in some rare cases, might possibly spread it to people who may get seriously ill. That is wha…

Because it will take days for you to notice that you have it and you will continue to spread it. Even if you do not die from it, others that caught it from you might. If you are vaccinated it might be that you do not spread it anymore. It seems that there is no data yet for the current corona vaccines, but other vaccines prevent spreading so the new ones might as well.

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? "What will you having this vaccine do for anybody but yourself ?" COVID is contagious meaning it's as much about those around you as it is yourself. Second, in order to beat COVID we have to have a certain immunity threshold i.e. 75% or whatever, meaning, your participation in that effort matters. It is our 'civic duty' and I'm proud that the top commenter (at the moment I write this) has put it in those terms beca…

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It wasn't necessary to copy/paste this eight times.

Re: Poll: Will you take the Covid vaccine?

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It wasn't necessary to copy/paste this eight times.

Just replying to each conversation and I'm lazy so couldn't muster a unique response for each person :) I'm sorry if I offended you with my copy/pasting

EDIT: One of my responses had a little extra tacked on so I'm deducting one apology from you

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