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Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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Recommendations for superior alternatives? I'm an indifferent GoDaddy user but would be happy to switch to something else since I've never liked them as a company.

We use AWS Route 53 for domain registration. Works like a charm.

I second Route 53 for domains. It’s straight to the point and clear cut unlike other registrars that try to upsell gimmicky features at every step.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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Another data point here. Happened to me ~7 years ago. FWIW, I haven't had any issues with Ghandi.net.

> Ghandi.net

I think you meant Gandi.net?

I definitely agree with the sentiment, Gandi has not done this to me in the past -- I've looked up short domains weeks before purchase -- and in general provide an outstanding service.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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Can you elaborate?

Worth combing through this thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=22001822 Algolia will have more.

Extremely curiously, the first comment for this article link is about... what do you know, Gandi possibly doing the same thing as the OP's experience, albeit less provably / over a longer time period.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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I have a similar story with Github. I filled the website field on the Github repo settings. The project was new and the end was not near and didn't register the domain. After a year or so decided to register but figured that the domain is already registered a month ago. I can't prove it but somebody in Github could have been checked website domains if it is already registered. (Or I was unlucky) The domain was never used and released after 2 years. The lesson here is: register your domain when you have a chance.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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> As a PSA to everyone, you should only ever use whois in a terminal window to see if a domain is available. A month or so ago, I discovered .wang was a TLD, and I immediately brought it up with friends, and we spent some time happily and goofily brainstorming. I'm not sure about the exact count, but after dozens of queries, whois started returning errors for too many requests.

that's not the whois software or the whois protocol returning that, it's the configuration of the particular nameserver you're talking to; whois software/protocol allows you to specify different nameservers, so you could switch

A who is server and a domain name server are two different things. But back to the topic: who is servers in most cases have some kind of limit per a certain time frame so you don't abuse them.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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Try our new Beast Mode tool for searching: https://www.namecheap.com/domains/registration/results/?doma...

I've been on Namecheap for 7-8 years and while I am satisfied, I have to say that Namecheap's search interface is unusably broken. It's been so bad for a few years that I've actually wondered if it's a sign of decline at the company... if you want very specific complaints about the UI I am happy to elaborate.

You want hover, best of both worlds. Amazing search experience, no misogynistic customer-hostile company (GoDaddy, not namecheap) behind it.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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The owner of yyy.name is the .name registry. That's just how they work. The intention was that people register first.last.name, and that multiple people could register under the same last.name.

Then it sounds like the .name registry is also in the business of selling subdomains, i.e. they're the owner of yyy.name. In other words, it's not possible for Namecheap to rent you xxx.yyy.name, because to do that they'd have to be the owner of yyy.name, and they're not. Sounds like the tech support agent and supervisor got it basically right.

They're not really subdomains. If you try to do a whois against e.g. smith.name you'll see it's not a registerable domain. Only the second level can be registered, xxxx.smith.name. Similarly if you had xxxx.co.uk, you own a domain because co.uk isn't registerable. The only quirk about .name is that common names can't be registered at the top level, but uncommon ones can.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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I had this happen as well in the past when researching domain names for a new product. Pro Tip: Stay the hell away from GoDaddy for everything. I've had the unfortunate task of managing a server hosted with them and it's been consistently awful (ex. I literally cannot upgrade PHP because the VPS doesn't support it and there is no upgrade path without spinning up an entirely new VPS on a different, and of course more…

Whenever I talk to startups, I check their domain. If they are on GoDaddy, it means that they are technically incompetent.

The registrar's job is to facilitate the transaction for the domain, charge you for renewals, and give you a way to assign the authoritative name servers. For that purpose GoDaddy works about as good as any other registrar. You can debate the merits of GoDaddy as a company on [oh so] many levels, remark on their absolutely terrible user interfaces, and certainly discuss their sleazy practices, but none of this is an indicator of ineptitude on the part of the purchaser. Having a slick user interface around what amounts to a Purchase Domain button and a text box for setting name servers isn't terribly exciting or something I care about, and GoDaddy covers a very large swathe of the available TLDs (though certainly not all of them), so managing many related domains across TLDs with a single account is appealing.

All that said: If the startup is using GoDaddy's name servers or certificates (but not their hosting), that actually is a pretty good indicator of ineptitude.

And if a startup is using GoDaddy _hosting_, that is completely indefensible. No startup should be on that sort of shared web hosting, GoDaddy or otherwise. You spin up the VMs, containers, functions, or PaaS (ie Heroku, Firebase) service of your choice in the cloud. Hell, put it on IPFS, host it on a push CDN, distribute it via a data: url. Pretty much anything would be better.

You don't build software at your startup and all this sounds complicated? Then perhaps consider SaaS solutions like GSuite, Shopify, Squarespace etc.

GoDaddy's hosting is unfit for any purpose.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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Would you consider the ability to export a zone file? I realize you may be withholding it because it aids transferring it out, but we often wish we could do that instead of taking screenshots or manually copying each record before we make a major DNS change.

Export a zone file? Namecheap can't even export a text or CSV file of all of my domains and their expiration dates. This is a long-standing open issue that Namecheap support has dodged several times with us. I'm still a customer right now, but I'm looking for another registrar.

Dodged? Just not currently a feature in our dashboard but it's straightforward and we know there's demand for it. We have some major updates in the works. Happy to manually provide an export for you in the meantime.

Re: Tell HN: Never search for domains on Godaddy.com

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I had this happen as well in the past when researching domain names for a new product. Pro Tip: Stay the hell away from GoDaddy for everything. I've had the unfortunate task of managing a server hosted with them and it's been consistently awful (ex. I literally cannot upgrade PHP because the VPS doesn't support it and there is no upgrade path without spinning up an entirely new VPS on a different, and of course more…

Gave up Godaddy recently, after 10 years. Overpriced ssl, old php version and no sign for upgrades and improvements.

If you are hosting a PHP website, then just host it yourself. You can get cheaper and better hosting from one of the "economy" clouds like DigitalOcean or Linode, and nowadays TLS certs can be automated for free with LetsEncrypt. GoDaddy as a registrar is fine but the rest of its services are completely unnecessary today.
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