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Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by sneak »

heavyset_go wrote: post #485
amaccuish wrote: post #97

What took me aback was the withdrawing permission to notarise their apps for Mac. That was only meant to be a check for known vulnerabilities/malicious software. Apple was more within their rights to kick Fortnite until the dust has settled from the iOS store, that was the retaliation, but now a mechanism supposedly for security has been repurposed as punishment. That's a pretty nasty move and I feel the mask has sli…

> What took me aback was the withdrawing permission to notarise their apps for Mac. That was only meant to be a check for known vulnerabilities/malicious software. When I brought up that Notarization was going to be used to gatekeep (literally with Gatekeeper[1]) access to the macOS platform, I was assured it would only be used for security and never for evil. Apple only made Notarization mandatory this February, too…

AFAIK it is still possible to run entirely unsigned apps on macOS.

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by jonny_eh »

oblio wrote: post #231
baddox wrote: post #188

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Being banned from the iOS App Store also doesn't make your software unusable on Windows, or Mac, or any other non-iOS platform. The App Store's exclusivity is precisely the same as that of nearly every video game console.

We actually have Nintendo to blame for this whole thing. They started the walled garden situation, and people seem oblivious to it and love them as a company. https://www.filfre.net/2016/04/generation-nintendo/ -> > In a landmark ruling against Tengen in March of 1991, Judge Fern Smith stated that Nintendo had the right to “exclude others” from the NES if they so chose, thus providing the legal soil on which many mor…

> people seem oblivious to it and love them as a company

In the same way people love Apple.

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by shirakawasuna »

StevePerkins wrote: post #567
Waterfall wrote: post #499

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What do you find him wrong about?

He has expressed skepticism that "willing participation" in pedophilia harms children. And given a couple of bizarre quotes on bestiality (essentially, "if the animal initiates it then what's the problem?"). More recently, he was pushed out of MIT and the FSF last year for questioning whether one of Jeffrey Epstein's victims was truly a victim or not. He prefers Emacs over Vim. There are probably other examples, but…

> He prefers Emacs over Vim

He's a monster.

Re: Apple to kill Epic’s accounts on Friday the 28th

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Post by grumple »

pearjuice wrote: post #421
grumple wrote: post #241

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ToS doesn't mean you can break federal antitrust laws.

What antitrust laws are they breaking?

I suggest taking a look at Epic's lawsuit, which was written by several antitrust experts.

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Post by my123 »

DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #582
whywhywhywhy wrote: post #573

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> You need to know what to google for to find the right magic incantation to enter into the macOS terminal. You right click it and select “Open”... Almost all MacOS users even the non-technical types encounter this at some point unless they go 100% Mac App Store which almost no one does if they have a job.

I tested this just now on my Mac and “right-click -> Open” on an untrusted .app gave me the same warning message with no obvious way to force-open the app.

Because it's “right-click -> Open” not once but _twice_. It's exactly the reverse of intuitive. There's also going to the Settings app and allowing the app, but no signs given to the user about that.

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Post by krapp »

skissane wrote: post #584
the_jeremy wrote: post #575

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A direct quote of RMS from his website[0]: The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal…

A much more recent quote from his website[0]: 14 September 2019 (Sex between an adult and a child is wrong) Many years ago I posted that I could not see anything wrong about sex between an adult and a child, if the child accepted it. Through personal conversations in recent years, I've learned to understand how sex with a child can harm per psychologically. This changed my mind about the matter: I think adults should…

To be fair, that disavowal came after his former behavior and views - which went not only accepted but defended by his peers and followers for years (including on HN following his "cancellation") finally became too much for people around him to bear. No other public figure with a history like his would be given even a shadow of a benefit of the doubt over nothing but a brief blog entry. If he were a politician or a celebrity HN would want to see him hanged with the rest of the degenerate elites.

I hope that he has changed his mind, but until there's some evidence that he's changed his behavior, there's no reason to assume he was doing anything but covering his ass (possibly at the behest of someone else) and trying to save his position and status. That's what would be assumed of anyone else, that's what should be assumed of him.

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Post by my123 »

grishka wrote: post #436
brundolf wrote: post #416

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You can bypass it: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202491

You can also disable AMFI, the component that enforces signatures and entitlements, altogether, but you have first to disable SIP completely by either booting into Linux of by patching the kernel and then setting the requisite NVRAM variable directly. (`spctl` does not, in fact, disable it completely.)

You don't need to do it that way. Boot to macOS Recovery and use csrutil(1) to disable SIP.

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Post by trystero »

fermienrico wrote: post #438
throwaw4y-plate wrote: post #427

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>I trust Apple more than any party in the world. That opinion is likely to be a bit of an outlier, heh.

I honestly do. Who would you trust more?

Free and open source software.
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