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Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps

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Post by jamil7 »

tekknik wrote: post #600
jamil7 wrote: post #596

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm wrong about what? The grandparent made a joke about dangerous animals killing people in Australia, I made a joke about guns killing people in America. Also picking out a single data point is a strange way to prove your point and try and start an argument about gun control in the US vs Australia, a debate I don't care to have since I don't live in either country.

Ok so you have no care about the subject, no care about either country, you saw it fit to respond..... And yes one datapoint is all it takes to show you can die in Australia from a gun just like in the US and nearly, if not every, country on earth. What a wonderful thing to joke about.

Well tone is hard to convey over this medium but you saw fit to hijack this thread and push whatever adgeda you have about gun control.

Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps

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Post by tekknik »

jamil7 wrote: post #601
tekknik wrote: post #600

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok so you have no care about the subject, no care about either country, you saw it fit to respond..... And yes one datapoint is all it takes to show you can die in Australia from a gun just like in the US and nearly, if not every, country on earth. What a wonderful thing to joke about.

Well tone is hard to convey over this medium but you saw fit to hijack this thread and push whatever adgeda you have about gun control.

That you don’t care about.

Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps

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Post by medion »

insta_anon wrote: post #424
medion wrote: post #409

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Let's say, beyond 42deg south.

Oh, based on your comment I was also expecting more or less a place in QLD. What were your main reasons for Tassy? Climate? House prices?

Climate, house prices (rather, value - acreage overlooking the ocean surrounded by trees, for less than a suburban shitbox on the mainland), remoteness, no traffic, etc. etc.

Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps

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Post by kortilla »

shaklee3 wrote: post #508
LarryMade2 wrote: post #506

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When you live in mountainous areas you usually have three options. Dial-up - if its offered still in your area, Point to point internet - if you have neighbours in line of sight also participating. or Satellite - if you are in line of sight to the satellite Many people I know up-country usually all they get is satellite, so yeah starlink may not the promised 20ms, but its hella lot better than what traditional satell…

Everything you just said applies to starlink as well. Why the double standard? Still need line of sight, they still won't provide advertised speed guarantees ( no ISP does). And most people don't care about latency. Bandwidth is far more important.

> And most people don't care about latency. Bandwidth is far more important.

Nobody who has ever used existing satellite says this. Latency becomes a huge issue at 500ms.

Re: Beta users of Starlink get downloads of 11 to 60 Mbps

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Post by shaklee3 »

kortilla wrote: post #604
shaklee3 wrote: post #508

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Everything you just said applies to starlink as well. Why the double standard? Still need line of sight, they still won't provide advertised speed guarantees ( no ISP does). And most people don't care about latency. Bandwidth is far more important.

> And most people don't care about latency. Bandwidth is far more important. Nobody who has ever used existing satellite says this. Latency becomes a huge issue at 500ms.

For real time games, yes, for the vast majority of traffic, no. Streaming and web browsing are plenty interactive enough for this to matter. Even VoIP does perfectly fine if it's tuned properly.

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Post by kortilla »

shaklee3 wrote: post #605
kortilla wrote: post #604

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> And most people don't care about latency. Bandwidth is far more important. Nobody who has ever used existing satellite says this. Latency becomes a huge issue at 500ms.

For real time games, yes, for the vast majority of traffic, no. Streaming and web browsing are plenty interactive enough for this to matter. Even VoIP does perfectly fine if it's tuned properly.

Browsing on 500ms is terrible and 500ms delay on voice ruins conversations. Most streaming apps don’t even have deep enough buffers to deal with the terrible latencies of satellite.

A single web page load of a “modern” website requires 10s of TCP connections to load resources from CDNs, each of which requires TLS handshakes taking 1.5 seconds, which are not initiated until the initial page is downloaded enough to see resources to load.

I had to live on this Internet for a summer. It was awful and was only good for long downloads. Everything else was literally better on dial-up. And this was 15 years ago.

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Post by codecamper »

BenjiWiebe wrote: post #478
codecamper wrote: post #138

aykm?? wasted the sky with this ugly crap for what we already have with 4g? somebody please kick Elon in the nuts for me.

There isn't a usable 4G signal everywhere. Not even everywhere in the US. On my 2 mile commute in Kansas, there's about 1 mile where I cannot even place calls or send texts, much less use data.

Oh i see I have angered the cult. A rare negative submission points for me by daring to criticize the holy one.
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