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I've recently interviewed and got 5 offers. Those numbers check out.
All SF/CA numbers I suppose? Any idea how these differ in Austin?
No idea for Austin, but I used levels.fyi to give me an idea of what to expect and negociate, and it helped a lot (and was on point with what I got offered). I think you can filter per city, so there might be some data for Austin.
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For what it's worth I moved from SF to AMS a few years ago for my employer (FAANG-ish) and they cut my salary by 30%. I was pissed and fought hard, but they didn't bulge. My quality of life (including buying power) was still more in AMS.
Depends on what you're buying. I made a similar move from SV to Munich, some things got cheaper, like rent, transportation, childcare, and groceries. "Stuff" (anything that comes out of a factory) was generally more expensive, as was media/digital subscriptions. Definitely feel poorer in Munich, though part of that was just an unfortunate school situation.
My experience with europe (France and Netherlands) is that most of those things are also incredibly cheaper, 20e/month for unlimited data cellphone plan, 40euro for fast internet, etc.
What type of media subscription you have for those to feel like they lower your buying power? I feel like once you've paid cheaper "rent, transportation, childcare, and groceries" you mention, how are your media/digital subscriptions making a difference?
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Sorry to highjack - any plans to expand to Europe and/or the UK (Brexit looming...) ? Cheers!
We're working on it! Still very sparse data for Europe right now, but you can search for UK specific salaries on our compensation page at https://www.levels.fyi/comp.html?track=Software%20Engineer&s... We also have a very preliminary salary page for London available at https://www.levels.fyi/Salaries/Software-Engineer/London/
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I tried this in West Norway recently, being as firm in the negotiation tactics as possible. Didn't yield higher offers at all ! So that tells me the market here is actually not nearly as competitive as all the consulting companies try to make people believe. In other words, the success of this strategy is market-dependent, but it certainly seems to have a huge effect in SV.
It might be competitive in the other direction: too many engineers, not enough opportunities. Then it becomes a bidding war to see who will accept the least pay.
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Did you start remote? I wonder if there is a difference in experience between people who start off working onsite but then decide they want to live somewhere else and negotiate remote work after proving themselves.
>Did you start remote? Not right away. My progression in tech was as follows: * Company 1: Explicitly onsite, no existing remote paradigm * Company 2: Explicitly onsite, no existing remote paradigm * Company 3: Explicitly onsite, existing but ad-hoc/unofficial remote paradigm * Company 4: Explicitly remote, with other onsite employees * Company 5: Explicitly remote, with other onsite employees Companies 1 & 2 had no…
What I find completely demotivating is working for a FAANG in Europe, and seeing the massive disparity between US colleagues. You can argue cost of living is different, healthcare is public blablabla, but recruiters have told me straight out: we dont adjust for cost of living, we adjust for market rate. Therefore they dont give a rats ass about how much it costs to live in a specific country, they just pay based on t…
I think what this whole exercise proves is that remote working is an unsolved problem, that "can physically see employee at their desk" is worth well over 50% of their salary. Therefore it's not a global market. Proper global markets produce things that cost similar amounts almost everywhere, like crude oil or iPhones.
And your point does not explain at al why salaries are so much lower for on-site workers everywhere else in the world.
The answer, I'm afraid, is privilege.
What I find completely demotivating is working for a FAANG in Europe, and seeing the massive disparity between US colleagues. You can argue cost of living is different, healthcare is public blablabla, but recruiters have told me straight out: we dont adjust for cost of living, we adjust for market rate. Therefore they dont give a rats ass about how much it costs to live in a specific country, they just pay based on t…
For what it's worth I moved from SF to AMS a few years ago for my employer (FAANG-ish) and they cut my salary by 30%. I was pissed and fought hard, but they didn't bulge. My quality of life (including buying power) was still more in AMS.
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This setup is unique to Amazon and is not at all common everywhere else. Almost all others give refresh grants as long as performance isn’t in the bottom 5-10%.
I don’t think that’s accurate. Refresh grants for mediocre performance are mostly a Google/Facebook thing.
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I don’t think that’s accurate. Refresh grants for mediocre performance are mostly a Google/Facebook thing.
No, refresh grants (around 25% of initial 4-year grant) for median performance are the norm. As far as I am aware, this is the case in all FAANG except Amazon.
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IT is not comparable to SWE.
That's situational in the UK IT is short hand for working in tech
Fact remains, some organizations classify everyone as an IT specialist that does anything with a computer.