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Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by rando444 »

rohan1024 wrote: post #467
jasonhansel wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uBlock should really just instruct users to "switch to firefox for a fast, up-to-date ad-blocking experience"

Yes we can ditch chrome. But what about general population? Now that websites may choose to give incompatiblity prompts to Firefox since it impacts there revenue through ads. They will ask users to switch to chrome. This might affect Firefox in long run. It's market share might drop.

General population will follow the tech crowd.

The main reason Chrome is so popular is because tech people have been saying "just use chrome" for forever.

Firefox is taking back that role. It'll take time, but with google becoming such a PII hoarder, it's a change that will likely continue.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by TeMPOraL »

josteink wrote: post #567
Sabinus wrote: post #516

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So, all commercial video content on the web?

Not all commercial content is DRMed. Example: Rifftraxx. You can also enjoy lots of high-quality, DRM-free content on YouTube, Vimeo, peertube, fosdem and god knows where. There’s more to internet video than Netflix, Hulu and Prime.

From the perspective of general population - which is where you need adoption to be even a mote of dust next to Chrome - no, there isn't.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by akerro »

jakeogh wrote: post #575
notatoad wrote: post #260

Not only is this enough to get me switching back to firefox, it's enough that my next laptop purchase won't be another chromebook the internet without an adblocker is simply not usable for me.

Serious suggestion: Disable JS. I find the net practically unusable with it enabled. It's like getting stuck using Windows for something. Checkout surf (webkit): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20023287

>Disable JS

Things that should be plaintext won't load without JS these times...

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by rando444 »

Jaruzel wrote: post #543
junar wrote: post #45

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Is it this? https://cloud.google.com/chrome-enterprise/browser/download

Key point (for Windows) on that page is: ADM/ADMX templates with 300+ user and device policies ADM/ADMXs are a list of settable policies (rules) that Chrome will read from the Windows Registry on startup[1]. I'm going to make a huge assumption that the Chrome.exe for Enterprise users is no different to the Chrome.exe that everyone else uses, and it switches into 'Enterprise' mode if it sees certain key policy entries…

These are just features and settings, there's no requirement to use them.

The main point isn't listed on the page.

The Enterprise installer installs Chrome to the operating system.

Regular chrome installs in your user profile.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by complex1314 »

feanaro wrote: post #547
chris_wot wrote: post #413

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Yep, I'm about to ditch Chrome altogether now. I gritted my teeth and just handled a few of the more bone-headed changes the Chrome team made, but this latest change is a deal breaker. The truth is, I actually don't need Chrome for anything. Firefox is faster now, gives me more freedom and has less corporate affiliations. I'll stick with Mozilla.

Out of curiosity, what would you say was the thing that still kept you on Chrome even though all of the things you said apply? Inertia due to habit?

On my low-end mac (Macbook) Chrome is still noticeable faster than Firefox. I ran Firefox the last year, but then I tried the new Opera and it was so much faster. Trying out others I realized it's the blink engine. So now I am using Vivaldi...

This is much less apparent on faster machines or on Linux/Windows though, but for me it is more efficient to use the same browser on all my machines.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by jakeogh »

Flavius wrote: post #595
jakeogh wrote: post #575

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Serious suggestion: Disable JS. I find the net practically unusable with it enabled. It's like getting stuck using Windows for something. Checkout surf (webkit): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20023287

Disabling JS in your browser is like cutting off your leg because one of your toes hurts. It might solve the toe problem, but it's not an ideal solution.

Hey, here's this arb app. Please execute it and get back to me.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by afureta »

feanaro wrote: post #547
chris_wot wrote: post #413

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, I'm about to ditch Chrome altogether now. I gritted my teeth and just handled a few of the more bone-headed changes the Chrome team made, but this latest change is a deal breaker. The truth is, I actually don't need Chrome for anything. Firefox is faster now, gives me more freedom and has less corporate affiliations. I'll stick with Mozilla.

Out of curiosity, what would you say was the thing that still kept you on Chrome even though all of the things you said apply? Inertia due to habit?

For me, it was Chrome's peerless DevTools (although Firefox has been catching up recently) and the fact that entering full screen on Firefox freezes up the entire UI for me (it's probably some bad interaction with BSPWM).

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by TeMPOraL »

rohan1024 wrote: post #467
jasonhansel wrote: post #294

Earlier quoted context omitted.

uBlock should really just instruct users to "switch to firefox for a fast, up-to-date ad-blocking experience"

Yes we can ditch chrome. But what about general population? Now that websites may choose to give incompatiblity prompts to Firefox since it impacts there revenue through ads. They will ask users to switch to chrome. This might affect Firefox in long run. It's market share might drop.

I'll bring out the "computer has viruses" argument. As in:

"Remember how you asked me to clean your computer from these toolbars and make it faster? This problem may happen again if you browse the web without uBlock Origin installed. Chrome doesn't support it now, so you have to use Firefox. Ignore websites pleading you to switch back to Chrome. Some of them will try to sneak in this toolbar garbage to you. Actually, stop visiting such websites because they're staffed with assholes who want to abuse you. But if you must, do it in Firefox. Yes, preferably in Private Browsing."

As others said, regular people follow the tech crowd. My family uses Chrome because that's what I've been telling them to install and/or installing for them for the past few years. But the very first thing I also install for them is uBO, and if that stops working, Chrome goes out of the window.

Re: Google to restrict modern ad blocking Chrome extensions to enterprise users

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Post by xf86alsa »

m12k wrote: post #559
ravenstine wrote: post #269

Slightly off topic, I'm finding it very disingenuous that people in this thread(and any other threads that come up about Firefox) have actually had significant performance issues with Firefox. No bugs that are noteworthy, sans that fiasco with the expired certificate that disabled addons briefly. I've been using Firefox since "quantum" on both my MacBooks(one of which is old AF) and on Linux. I've yet to have problem…

I tried Firefox again right when quantum landed, but at the time there was a significant delay in opening/rendering pages compared to Chrome - as in 4-5 seconds to open Reddit compared to 1-2 seconds on Chrome (this was in macOS on a 2013 MBP with both browsers running uBlock Origin) and an hour of troubleshooting and following tips on the web yielded no improvements - I don't know what's disingenuous about that... W…

Just a tip: old.reddit.com loads much faster than the reddit redesign.

You can use https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/old-reddit-re... to always use that version automatically.

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