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Uber London loses licence to operate

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Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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Could you expand on that point please because my understanding of the term monopoly, " the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service. " would align with the point the other commenter is raising. Some independent stores simply aren't interested in being the monopoly in their local area for their particular product. Sometimes they just run the business because its a product the…

> Could you expand on that point please because my understanding of the term monopoly, "the exclusive possession or control of the supply of or trade in a commodity or service." would align with the point the other commenter is raising. pbhjpbhj's comment implies that by addressing a niche market, you would avoid the drive to monopolize. I'm arguing that if you are addressing a niche market, you are working to monopo…

>> I'm arguing that if you are addressing a niche market, you are working to monopolize that market, and you don't have to monopolize the whole market of similar services to be a monopoly.

That's pretty much what a monopoly is, and even in your niche, not everyone wants to be a monopoly.

I have a friend who runs a small craft beer bar. Another craft beer bar is going to open two doors down. To him this is great - the area becomes known for craft beer and more people come along. There is no monopoly there.

>> For example, Microsoft has a monopoly (in this case a government one) on producing Microsoft Windows, but Microsoft Windows is not the only PC operating system.

But they tried to make it that way, and came close for a while. That's the time period they had various anti-competition lawsuits aimed at them.

This is what most people are talking about when they are talking about monopolies, and it's clear that not every business aims to be one.

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> Wait. What? In 2017? There are instructions and I have to report broken equipment? I have to figure out instructions on payment system?! There's no button to handle it all on my phone? lol nice bit wait are you serious

Yes, I am. There's no bloody way I am going to use a dumber system is smarter option is available.

Hope you enjoy being angry all the time over literally pointless minutia

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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They would a taxi company if they built software to allow their drivers to break the law.

If you truly believe that, you are naive. There is no reasonable situation that would make any government turn on its own cabs.

Where are there government operated cabs?

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If you truly believe that, you are naive. There is no reasonable situation that would make any government turn on its own cabs.

Where are there government operated cabs?

Everywhere. Tipically the gov' puts forth a guideline on license use and sells the licenses. In many markets, you cannot be a cab driver without dealing with purchasing a license through or related with the state, and then you have to abide by the state regulations. Only a few of the guidelines typically contrain options: having to paint all cars the same means that different car quality is masked from the user. Depending on the market, doing a complaint on a cab driver, it goes to the state and it goes nowhere, because the state does not fullfill quality control, etc. In Buenos Aires, the government is also providing an Uber-like app for taxi-cabs.

I dont know the details of London, but most of the time, cabs are what they are because of the government, that has a fiduciary duty to the people they sold the licenses to.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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They already had a warning shot four months ago, when their license renewal was denied in favour of a temporary renewal for four months. This one is the next step in the process. Uber isn't magic - if there's pent-up demand for a company that fills Uber's boots, one will pop up. The issues TfL have with Uber aren't to do with the service they provide, it's failing to comply with TfL's administrative requirements. You…

> You could easily build a company that does what Uber does in London without the hate for local Government that is ingrained into Uber's culture You act like Uber flaunting local flaws is a flaw for the company. Ignoring 10,000 different sets of local laws in all the localities Uber operates is what made them successful. It would have been impossible to expand as much as they had if the bothered dealing with the loc…

Sounds like you are endorsing the idea that laws and regulations just get in the way of business, while ignoring the purpose behind laws and regulations to begin with.

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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Valuing ethics over consumerism requires time and life experience.

What's ethical about state-supported oligopolies?

What's ethical about Uber deciding for a city which laws and regulations are worth following?

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> And an unregulated market multiplies opportunities for those who are willing to earn their own living by their work I don't think that's true. Unregulated markets can result in a number of situations that limit people's opportunities significantly. Monopolies are a clear example and various externalities can also have significant impacts on commerce. To maximize the opportunities we need carefully tuned regulation.…

> Unregulated markets can result in a number of situations that limit people's opportunities significantly. Monopolies are a clear example and various externalities can also have significant impacts on commerce. Could you name an existing stable monopoly that is not a state-granted monopoly (i.e. a monopoly, that is not associated with government regulations, subsidies, grants, medallions, quotas and other things tha…

> Could you name an existing stable monopoly that is not a state-granted monopoly.

No, because we have regulations to prevent them and break them up.

There are a number of entities that are clearly restraining their classically monopolistic behavior BECAUSE of the regulations such as Microsoft, Google and Amazon.

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I’ve lived in London for over 35 years. It’s common parlance. That kebab shop was a mugging. You were mugged in the apple store. Etc etc.

I consulted three dictionaries, including a British one, before writing that comment. Your use very fringe at best and is very inappropriate anywhere else, as it was pointed out to you.

Dictionaries lag behind the language. They do not define the language. [1] Metaphorically, the dictionary is a slightly out of date road map, it doesn't define the road network. When the poster tells you of a new road, he isn't "wrong" just because it doesn't show up on your old map.

[1] http://www.maximumfun.org/adam-ruins-everything/adam-ruins-e...

Re: Uber London loses licence to operate

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Is it possible that that's the case PaulRobinson was referring to? A few years earlier than he thinks but it's plausable no?

Possibly, but as mattlondon's sibling comment alludes to, the statement of a single rape prosecution in more than 300 years is still a long way from the truth.

Yet no-one's managed to come up with evidence of it being false. Perhaps less knee jerk "I can't believe that!" and more checking facts before discounting comments
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