My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…
Windows? It's really not that bad.
Switching from macOS: The Basics
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Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
#602Earlier quoted context omitted.
Which adapters do you need to carry? I would love a 32G or 64G machine too, but did you see what Phil Schiller said about the 32G issue? It sounded like it wasn't a matter of a little bit more power, it was a LOT more. We really don't know how much more. Apple does know. If the new design was two inches thick people would be complaining about that. Personally I'm expecting that no matter what the vendor. desktops wil…
> Which adapters do you need to carry? USB-A adapter for my wireless Logitech keyboard and mouse. A gigabit ethernet adapter. Mini-DP x2 adapter, for my desktop screens. I may be able to leave those attached to the screens, though. I'd need another one for home in that case. Power adapter, HDMI adapter and two USB-A, for attaching to any external screens, speakerphones, and webcams when in a conference room. If I inc…
You don't need that keyboard or mouse. And, as you said, they are wireless. But the real point is they are not needed. It's a laptop. No need to carry an extra keyboard around with it. Just keep those things at home, I would think. And the adapter for their wireless wires or whatever. Not a problem.
>A gigabit ethernet adapter.
WiFi? This one could be handy, in very rare cases. Better bring a cable too. And a small hub or switch in case there are no ports available. And power for the switch. And a second cable and adapter in case you want to do 2x 1GB... hmmmmm maybe this being prepared for everything bit can be carried too far, no? But let's blame Apple.
>Mini-DP x2 adapter, for my desktop screens. I may be able to leave those attached to the screens, though.
There. What you just said. Leave them attached. No problem.
>I'd need another one for home in that case.
Yep, not a problem.
>Power adapter, HDMI adapter and two USB-A, for attaching to any external screens, speakerphones, and webcams when in a conference room.
It already comes with a power cord. What laptop doesn't?
It has a camera built in.
It has speakers and a microphone.
For connecting to the big screen, AirPlay is wireless.
If all these don't work for you, any decently equipped conference room or company where the room is located should have the proper equipment available. Otherwise you have to make do with the fantastic quality of the built in AV components of the laptop. If they don't even have a screen, are you going to bring one just in case? Of course not; you'll present off the screen on the laptop, in a pinch. As with all the other stuff. But in most cases you won't even need to because they'll have the proper equipment on hand.
And you forgot about conferencing tools like Google Hangouts, which can be freely used by everyone if they simply decide to.
>If I include my hobbies, I will also be needing a USB-C to USB-B cable for my USB hub (or a few new USB-C to Mini- and Micro-USB cables), and a SD card adapter.
Those can stay at home. If you go on a trip to take lots of photos on an SD card, then of course for any such trip you are bringing an SD adapter. Big deal.
To sum up, of all these I see precisely one that while very optional might be nice to have sometimes: the ethernet adapter. The others seem like just moving the goalposts to justify hating on Apple.
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
#603Earlier quoted context omitted.
Middle click to paste is indeed an old convention. Xterm supports it, so I suspect it goes all the way back to the early days of the X Window System, c. 1984.
I don't have a problem with middle click being a backwards-compatible convention. It's that the option to change it is non-obvious, and therefore excludes laptop users. As a counter-example: Much earlier versions of Windows had a menu in the top left corner. The shortcut to close a window used to be double-clicking in that corner. In Windows 7 (not sure about 8 or 10), that menu button/icon is gone. Of course, you ca…
The windows X is more of a backwards compatibility thing I imagine, because it makes no sense to have an invisible menu in the top left corner.
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
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> Must confess that 10 years ago I lost around 5 years in deep linux setup & programming, and I know all that you say. I am afraid you'll find the Linux of today is much different than a decade ago. In regards to known working laptops, you mean something like this[1], this[2], this[3] or this[4] ? Also you can just buy from [5] or [6] and have Linux preinstalled with all the correct drivers. [1] - https://wiki.archli…
I'm interested in Ubuntu LTS or Debian stable, not in school-rolled Arch that is known to be broken on each update. Second, it's wiki is filled with anecdotal tips (not even tips) that cover no real issues and provide no idea from which hardware to select. You should click on every configuration to check it, but no one will do. Because it is just words without any customer review or experience. Call it lazy, don't mi…
Arch has been rock solid for me for 5 years. You just seem to repeat stereotypes.
> Because it is just words without any customer review or experience.
The words have been written from experience.../head against wall/
> still no Products.
WTF is with this "products" - every Linux distro is a "product", even the kernel is a "product" if you will. I told you if you want professional support pay Canonical or RedHat, but you shouldn't need it if you have basic comprehension skills.
> Curious if you really use this Arch and selected hw by its wiki, or you just googled for me, writing from ubuntu on 10-year old thinkpad.
I indeed run it on VERY modern HW and am typing this from [this baby][1] and even run my home server on Arch, because it's been super stable for me, (on [2] if you're interested...)
[1] - https://www.obsidian-pc.com/en/portatil-clevo-p751dm2-g [2] - http://www.intel.co.uk/content/www/uk/en/nuc/nuc-kit-nuc6i7k...
> Locals can't really tell what to buy, because virtually everyone except those having ancient thinkpads have at least one issue.
Buy any Clevo or a Dell Dev Edition or even a modern HP laptop and you'll be fine.
> others just bought macbook and have no problems trolling linuxoids from osx.
As someone who has to use a MBP for iOS dev, I'll be very careful with the trolling, since there was no release of macOS since 10.6 without major issues, including Sierra. Not even talking 10.7, which was worse than Vista.
> I can spend some money on recent notebook (but don't get that 'serious' and 'pro' arguments, because we talk about regular user and regular hw)
You do what you will - we're talking about a pro here, because this is a post in context of people being disappointed with the newest MBP not being Pro enough for the "Pros".
> what an idiot will I feel myself when it will lose wifi too often or fail to sleep on close.
You have NO IDEA of the irony of this - my 2015 MBP randomly looses WiFi every second day or so, google, "macbook pro loses wifi", it as I am far from alone.
> arguing for linux on desktop is hard
It is in some ways, but I don't care what OS you run and have no desire to "convert you ", I just want to disprove the perceptions that were true a decade ago and have long since been resolved.
Just to give an example of how frustrating this is, i.e. "I tried PulseAudio in 2005 and it sucked, PulseAudio suckzzz!", yeah, it's 2016 and it no longer sucks, in fact it's pretty awesome.
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
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I have been a Linux user for a long time ( ArchLinux with Xfce ). Recently, I switched jobs and my employer issued me with a Mac. I am having the same problem : the fucking OS . Why do I need to press multiple buttons to see how many applications I have open ? Why does command + tab cycle through every open application ? Why does it not limit itself to the applications in the current space ? What are spaces for anywa…
> Also why do I have to press Command + whatever when there is a perfectly functional control key on the keyboard ? Of all the OS X criticism, this is the most absurd. Command, Control, they are all arbitrary choice, why even whinge about it. Is like going to France and complaining everyone speaks French
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
#606My own burning hatred towards Apple runs a little hotter than most, and I have been seriously googling (and trying) alternatives since 2012. That was when my $9000 Mac Pro — which had been a great machine, and still was, except for the little detail about not having been updated since 2009 and thus being stuck with USB 2 (!!!) to say nothing of Thunderbolt and any kind of modern accoutrements — started to feel like a…
Speak for yourself. Linux is a perfectly viable option for non-lazy people, who don't complain about everything. And Windows 10 is excellent too if you don't care about privacy. And it's Ubuntu not Ubuttnu. >> a sneering fuck you directed at not just me, but everybody remotely like me. You overpaid 8k for a machine so why should Apple care? You are clearly going to buy their next product. >>But we're mostly all gonna…
And that right there is the problem. Laziness is a good thing, it means the software is being more useful. And you should encourage complaints and fix the problem, which can only make things better for everyone.
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
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I instantly believe you, based on my experience of the fiasco that is Gnome 3, but can you share some examples of this?
Have fun reading, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10757985
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
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If it stops working it violates the GPL: Freedom 0: "The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose."
You have the code, so you can run it as you wish. Does this line make a program un-GPL? exit(0) if Time.now > Time.new(2016,11,15,0,0,0)
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
#609Earlier quoted context omitted.
My biggest gripe with OS X right now is that Safari doesn't play nice with some website when it comes to dragging pictures and pasting them in from the clipboard.
Safari is following in the iTunes and Preview in the "what's wrong with this once pretty decent piece of software??" thing Among web devs Safari is considered "the new IE" (which among web devs is probably the lowest insult) TL;DR avoid Safari. It's rubbish.
Re: Switching from macOS: The Basics
#610Earlier quoted context omitted.
well the not-fully-working desktop stack for Linux devs seems to work just fine for them. I've certainly never had a problem with it. I've never had a problem with the Apple kit either but it's nothing to write home about. The only thing I've seen Apple do that I did think was really cool is the package signing.
"well the not-fully-working desktop stack for Linux devs seems to work just fine for them" Because they don't care about stuff like GUI. And it shows.
I'm going to leave it there before the mist descends, but basically as far as I'm concerned Apple couldn't design a paper bag without fucking it up.
Where Linux sucked was in the distros' constant "improvement" of core features that weren't broken in order to be first past the post. For example PulseAudio was introduced before it actually worked with most hardware configurations, and nobody cared about the cool new features it came with. Ubuntu deciding to adopt KDE4 before it was ready for general release was another stupid decision. In fact, I'm basically talking about Ubuntu and Gnome.