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Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by EugeneOZ »

Osmium wrote: post #596
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. I very rarely respond with such a glib comment, but: really? Isn't that slightly hyperbolic? This is very emotive language to describe a completely reasonable and innovative update to a laptop. It was never going to satisfy everyone's needs or wants, especially when some of those wants are not currently physically realistic ("all day battery lif…

Really? Isn't your response slightly hyperbolic? How much more powerful processor you'll get in 2016 MBPr? Maybe more RAM?

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by username3 »

basch wrote: post #258
blocke wrote: post #24

The touch bar examples shown are a usability disaster. You're going to hide UI from the screen and make me keep looking at the keyboard to find functionality? I stopped looking at the keyboard every 10 seconds when I learned how to touch type. The presenter spent most of his time looking at the keyboard and not the screen. This gimmick will disappear when Apple decides a touch screen is needed to complete the slow me…

I think Apple is prepping to do away with the keyboard entirely. Within a couple years they will release a refined version of this http://www.theverge.com/circuitbreaker/2016/9/2/12769094/len... All the keys will be virtual, and they will have haptic feedback. The shallow key travel now is to prepare people, similar to the coke new coke conspiracy. Then they will make the keyboard half of the laptop an ipad. Then the…

Keys will be raised aluminum with Taptic.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by Spooks »

alejandromaka wrote: post #534
brentm wrote: post #320

I hate to take away from the complaining in here but I actually think it looks pretty nice. I was pleasantly surprised with the interactions they demonstrated with the new ribbon display. I knew they were going to announce it and didn't think I'd care but I will walk away from the video with the feeling that I want one.

congratulations on being the only positive comment in here. thank you.

probably a valid reason for all that negativity...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by landhar »

ROFISH wrote: post #225

16GB RAM max, DP1.2 (so no 5k display support), worthless Touch Bar when I use my current MBP dual monitor with the lid closed. Pass. Sadly I really wanted something better since I'm on an old 2012 MBP that badly needs an upgrade but I'm not dropping $1500+ for something that doesn't support 32GB and 5k displays.

I need an upgrade even more. I'm still using my 2008 MB, the first macbook with the unibody aluminum casing. I upgraded the RAM to 8GB 4 years ago and had to change the battery around the same time. It proved to be a very resilient piece of hardware, even though now I can only use it when plugged as there seems to be something off with the battery that causes it to shut down sporadically.

Last year, I took the decision of waiting another year to upgrade, betting that the 2016 MBPs were probably going to introduce a significant upgrade to the line up, perhaps something of the same magnitude as the aluminum casing in 08. And I'm very disappointed that I was proven wrong...

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by cozzyd »

swang wrote: post #390
verandaguy wrote: post #176

I'm surprised (and a bit disappointed) by the lack of HDMI and DisplayPort/Thunderbolt ports. I'm even more surprised by the lack of a physical escape key. I'm concerned that it could break some applications (Vim, Emacs, all kinds of command-line stuff), even if isn't as big a deal with Apple's non-developer user base. ... At least they kept the 3.5mm jack.

they did break the ESC key. i upgraded to sierra on monday. vim wasn't working. just thought it was some new vim setting that came over from sierra. then the following day i tried hitting escape to exit out of the search interface in sublime. didn't work. figured out that my esc key was broken. the fix was to kill siri which gave me back access to the ESC key. i was wondering why QA, developers, product never ran int…

sounds like they're bringing esc-to-enter-command-mode to a native OS feature. Why settle for your crusty old vim command line when Siri is so much more courageous.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by the_duke »

illuminati1911 wrote: post #555
rayiner wrote: post #259

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Microsoft really hit it out of the park yesterday. Did we watch the same event? Microsoft introduced a $3,000 desktop PC in an era when nobody uses desktops anymore. It introduced a minor update to the Surface Book that starts at $2,300 with dual-core CPU, only 8GB of RAM, and last-gen graphics hardware. For the same price as the new Surface Book i7, I can get an MBP 15" with bigger screen, twice the RAM, and a qua…

It's just trendy to complain about everything Apple does although most likely 90% of the complainers will be getting these new macbooks anyway. If they just push the specs up, increase battery life..."Apple isn't innovating anymore", "So what's new?", "It looks just like my old MBP" etc. Now that they actually bring something innovative you'll get this kind of complains. Now no matter if people liked this event or no…

> Overpriced useless last gen crap for insane price.

That perfectly fits my opinion of Apple. ;)

I jumped off the Apple band wagon years ago, but an important point here is: Apple events used to be exciting. They would announce something interesting and worthy at every event, which is why so many even started watching life streams.

The iPhone is still a really great phone, but iOS has been playing catchup with Android for years. And apart from mobile Apple hasn't done much that's innovative or interesting for quite some time.

That's why opinions are so harsh. People have come to expect more.

Re: MacBook Pro

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Post by acdha »

pfg wrote: post #480
npgatech wrote: post #165

This event was by far the most disappointing Mac event in the history. A lot of the time was wasted in: - Mildly funny jokes and comparison with 90's technology. - 90% of the talk was about the touch bar. - Awful demos of Photoshop & some cringy DJ. I was hoping we would see: - A new MacBook with all day battery life and touch bar, even thinner design. Ok, I understand that they are trying to consolidate their produc…

> - No iMac update (!!!). iMacs were refreshed in late 2015. It's typically ~3 years between new generations, often with a hardware refresh somewhere in between. Nothing new here. > - No monitor announcement. They partnered with LG (I think?) on a 5k monitor. Sounds like a reasonable replacement for the Thunderbolt Display.

> iMacs were refreshed in late 2015. It's typically ~3 years between new generations, often with a hardware refresh somewhere in between. Nothing new here.

http://buyersguide.macrumors.com/#Mac shows the days between releases in the past:

    147 May 2015
    215 Oct 2014
    387 Sep 2013
    298 Nov 2012
    577 May 2011
    280 Jul 2010
We're currently 380 days since the last release, which is on the long side other than the one 2010-2011 outlier. I don't think anyone expects Apple to ship radically different hardware designs every year but they desperately need a tick-tock strategy which ships identical cases with non-obsolete components if they expect anyone outside of the die-hard Mac fans to keep buying.
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