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Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Not really. HTC10: 145.9 x 71.9 iPhone7: 138.3 x 67.1 (-7.6, -4.7 vs HTC10) iPhone7+: 158.2 x 77.9 (+12.7, +6 vs HTC10)

I see how you conveniently avoided listing their thickness. HTC 10 is 20% thicker then iPhone 7 plus.

Because it doesn't matter when you hold it in your hand. (At least 1-2 mm doesn't, for me.)

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> The icon-based home screen is showing it's age and will need a revolution rather than an evolution. Why? It is easy, intuitive, and used by millions of people. Change for changes sake?

Glanceable information on the home screen is useful so users don't have to open every app, it also changes the home screen from being just "an launcher" to potentially provide useful information that you might need rather then being "just a launcher". It's just "one step less" in some scenarios. Notifications are great for things that need your attention but the home screen becomes a little more of a seredipious view…

I think right now using the notifications screen for this 'at a glance' info and using the home screen for launching full apps, accomplishes the goal you are seeking.

I would love to see the iPad interface evolve a bit and not look so much like my phone. I don't feel like they are using all that space as elegantly as they could be.

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Note 7: Huge screen. 5" is a practical limit for me. iPhone: I want direct filesystem access and 3rd-party app stores, app sideloading, etc. Also, to not have to re-purchase the apps I already have. The smaller Pixel is more interesting to me than either the Note 7 or iPhone 7. Of course, I've got a weird combination of requirements for phones, and they go against the direction that most of the market is headed, so I…

In that case you should consider Galaxy S7, it has somewhat smaller dimensions than Pixel, but has a bigger screen. BTW, this is another con for the Pixel a 5" is a DOA for most users these days.

Do you remember the Duke controller on the original Xbox? It was usable but not comfortable, and a year or two after the console's release the market pressed for smaller controls. Microsoft started shipping the model sold in Japan.

I feel the same way about phones. 5"+ is usable, but only with an uncomfortable degree of strain in my hands. I honestly don't see why the "bigger is better" mindset rules the market. I just see that every decent handset out there is a usability compromise.

Thank you for pointing out the S7, though. It's only slightly larger than my current phone, and it would be near the top of my list if I were to go out and buy a new one tomorrow.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Besides "using iOS apps" what exactly is the iPad's use case? Certainly the Surface line as a whole has seen a really big uptake from the art community. So while the pen specs are slightly better on the iPad side it doesn't seem to influence consumer behavior.

Besides 'using windows apps that weren't designed for a tablet' what exactly is the Surface's use case?

It's an excellent development environment for everyone but iOS and macOS developers. It's got a great set of digital illustration tools with a lot more time put into development than the newer iOS equivalents. It's is a full windows box, which gives it impressive range. It has better linux binary support than MacOSX (unfair, that has none).

There are a lot of windows apps that are designed and work really well on the tablet. It's not like Apple holds a monopoly here.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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Android has already won. It is the hardware that has not managed to challenge hardware. But then Android's key selling point has always been about "choice". Blackberry like Android phones ? check. Android phones that feel like Windows UI ? Check, $30 phones? check, phones that look more like gaming devices ? check.

Re: Behind the Pixel: Google’s First Real Threat to Apple’s iPhone

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The interesting part will be for how long will the Phone + Software be supported. Now that the price is the same I think it's fair the support should be the same as the iPhone.

My Nexus 4 from several years back keeps getting timely updates. And still works pretty well.

Security updates, I assume, since the last major official OS version was 5.1.

Hm, does it even still get updates? The last official image posted by Google is from end of 2015. https://developers.google.com/android/nexus/images#occam

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Does anybody actually use these virtual assistants? They seem like the bluetooth dongle of the mid-2000s - friends wouldn't let friends use them. Is it just for people who drive? Or will there be a tipping point when it won't seem so arrogant barking commands on the subway or in a quiet office?

Every alarm, timer, and reminder I set (on my phone), are set by voice. I chose it because "Set an alarm for 8am" really is the best interface to interact with that subsystem.

Ditto, the Echo is worth it alone for this. "Echo, what time is it" "Echo, set an alarm for [+8 hours]". And when I'm about to sleep and I realize I've forgotten the alarm, I don't have to turn on a glaring blue screen.

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Honestly, in terms of staff UI design cred Android is in better place than iOS right now. With the Sidekick, PalmOS, and then Material Design, Matías Duarte has been consistently at the forefront of mobile UI design. Jony Ive is probably the most brilliant consumer electronics hardware designer in the world, but I have yet to see any indication that he has any idea how to lead a platform UI design project. I had issu…

Material design is like bootstrap for mobile. Good to give devs something they can't mess up too badly, but is pretty soulless.

What do you expect; it's "Material"? Souls are immaterial.

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iOS is in a tough position, the road of incremental changes is coming to an end. The icon-based home screen is showing it's age and will need a revolution rather than an evolution. You can kinda see Apple dipping it toes into the widget arena with the notifications area, yet they're probably hesitant to remake the whole home screen and risk alienating their current users. Tech savvy people won't mind a new home scree…

> The icon-based home screen is showing it's age and will need a revolution rather than an evolution. Why? It is easy, intuitive, and used by millions of people. Change for changes sake?

It seems very telling to me that the Standard Windows Desktop is generally considered a wasteland of discarded program and file icons, basically where you throw your digital trash...yet iOS decided that this was the design they wanted for the main start page of their OS.

No wonder there is such a divide among users. I don't think age has anything to do with it though.

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