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Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by lhl » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:00 AM UTC

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Sorry, locate is not even comparable to what Spotlight does. Do a search for mdfind(1) to get an idea of what is does. Recoll is the only thing I found on Linux being actively developed that comes close, but it's definitely not as polished or flexible. I'm primarily running Arch these days, but there are some things that Linux just has no good equivalent for.

But the opportunity cost is never having a true enterprise class file-system. If you look at Linux, OpenSolaris (and it's derivatives), BSD and yes even modern Windows in terms of core technology and performance their file-systems are generations ahead of OSX. What shocks me is that given the BSD lineage of OSX that is hasn't switched to ZFS yet given how Apple prides itself on being the "best of the best" of computi…

While that may be a valid point on some glasses-bridge-pushing technical level (certainly Linus has strong opinions on HFS), but so what? In practice, this hasn't been an issue (I spent about 15 years running OSX desktop workstations and laptops, and and also managed a fleet up to 50 OSX client machines in very shady power situations w/o problems) - sure ZFS is technically sweet but doesn't make sense on a laptop (OpenSolaris, BSD on the go? please) and has historically been a PITA on Linux (CDDL).

What other enterprise-class file system are you talking about? btrfs is still immature, anytime I've strayed from ext, I regret it. And NTFS? I've had lots of more problems w/ that than anything else (admittedly, probably due to poor interactions between Windows and ntfs-3g on Linux).

In any case, since OSX isn't a data-center OS, I don't see what "enterprise-class" storage has to do with it anyway.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by pyre » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 5:27 AM UTC

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The most frustrating part for me is that CMD-Tab'ing to, say, Hangouts will show me the Hangouts window. Now if I try to CMD-Tab to Chrome, it stays on the Hangouts window even though they are trying to treat them as separate applications (it's own application icon in the CMD-Tab bar, and a separate application menu from Chrome). This frustrates me on a daily basis.

The problem is that hangouts is still chrome.app. So the cmd+tab switcher groups it with chrome.. I've been using hyperswitch as my cmd+tab replacement for a while, and it is much closer to the windows implementation. I find it better..

But Hangouts injects its own icon in the CMD-Tab bar and the Dock. I feel like it this really shouldn't happen unless the app can truly be treated separately or else things start breaking or behaving in ways that the user does not expect ("it doesn't work like everything else" as does in this case).

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by pswenson » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 2:03 PM UTC

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what? jetbrains.com (intellij, appcode, pycharm,webstorm, rubymine etc) sublime text atom vim emacs eclipse

Not even close to Visual Studio on Windows, that's the point (I know I'm repeating, but it's sad that I'm having to do that).

Intellij is amazing. Note that jetbrains built resharper to de-suckify Visual Studio. And many of the refactorings that we all take for granted were invented by Jetbrains.

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Post by swah » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:28 PM UTC

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That's great if you're a Windows developer. If you aren't then congratulations your performance is cripped as you have to run everything inside a Linux VM. There are just too many open source projects that stupidly hard core path seperators or rely on UNIX binaries. Microsoft would really do well supporting a truly great UNIX layer.

True you need a VM but performance doesn't have to be crippled. My out of office/at home machine is a Dell Inspiron 5558 (Core i7, 16GB RAM). I stuck an intel 256GB SSD in it, took the free upgrade to Windows 10 and do all my dev work in a few Virtualbox VMs (leaning heavily on mRemoteNG for lots of tabbed PuTTy instances!). Total cost (including the Intel SSD) was £726 or $1049 at today's rate (exc. VAT). So didn't…

I also think Windows + Putty is better than Desktop Linux. I'm actually going to sell the Mac (can't get used to shortcuts, don't have money to an upgrade here in Brazil) and buy a Windows PC + Intel NUC for HTPC + Linux box.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by LeoPanthera » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 4:43 PM UTC

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I never understood this. You keep all your music in iTunes. What harm could possibly come even if it did accidentally wipe your device? The worst possible scenario is that you'll have to wait a few minutes to sync it back again.

Not an iTunes user, but I guess some people just want to do a selective sync to certain devices to keep storage use in check and maintain library navigability on the device. That can be quite a bit of work which you wouldn't want to lose to technical failure.

The "correct" way to do this is to make a playlist of the things you want on your device, and then to tell iTunes to sync to that playlist (or collection of playlists) only.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by digi_owl » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 5:34 PM UTC

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Basically it seems that the imessage app on iOS basically can't be bothered to check every number every time a group message is sent. So once it has found you were a imessage number you are forever an imessage number within that group. The only way to break it, as best i know as an outsider, is for everyone else in that group that are imessage users to delete the group and start over. Likely it is another one of Appl…

But Apple Central knows that the number is no longer on iMessage. It also know that I was the recipient of an iMessage in the group. How difficult would it be for Apple to send an update to the client, saying "Um, you tried to iMessage $NUMBER, but it is no longer on iMessage" ?

As best i can tell, what you suggest happens on one to one messages. But there seems to be something in the way iMessage stores group messages, and use whats stored when responding, thats the problem.

If i am to guess, the client-server protocol only sends a single message id, and thus when one part of a group fails, the server has to invalidate the whole group.

And Apple would be loath to do that as it would perhaps be seen as an inconvenience to the user.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by United857 » Wed, Feb 10, 2016, 8:14 PM UTC

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You need the compilers/toolchain from Xcode, but there are third-party build tools, such as e.g. Buck[1] that combined with an decent editor, let you pretty much avoid the Xcode GUI for a lot of the development cycle. [1] https://buckbuild.com/

you said "a lot of the development cycle", as someone who hates Xcode I worry that won't be enough (not making anything requiring compilation on mac at moment, so not particularly worried)

If you don't use Interface Builder, you can actually avoid Xcode completely.

Re: Apple fans are coming to hate Apple software

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Post by largote » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 3:52 AM UTC

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Someone clearly lives in the US... Probably in the Bay Area. edit: just tested Apple Maps with a couple searches I did in Google Maps yesterday. Searched for the carrier shops for the two biggest carriers in my country. First search took me to Australia. The other ones found nothing in my city (there are probably at least 10-20 of each carrier in this town) and zoomed out to country level. Still completely and utterl…

According to this article http://fortune.com/2015/06/16/apple-google-maps-ios/ Apples maps is used by Apple iPhone users more then Google Maps. So it's hard to believe it's as bad as you claim.

iOS makes it intentionally much easier to just use Apple Maps and deal with the badness than to use another map App.

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Post by tracker1 » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 6:12 AM UTC

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Comparable laptops aren't really any better. The rMBP is a lot more repairable than say the Surface Book (which won't let you even open the case without possibly cracking the display). At least Apple has a battery replacement service at an advertised price--what'll Dell charge you to replace the non-servicable battery in the XPS13 or XPS15? And no other PC laptop hits that right sweet spot of power/battery/display qu…

ThinkPad screens have been getting better. I'm actually pretty happy with contrast/brightness of the FHD IPS on my X250 (color gamut definitely could be better, but at least it doesn't do dynamic contrast like recent Dells), but the new screens, like the X1 Yoga's new OLED screen looks fantastic (I believe that'll be a 100% Adobe RGB screen). Whenever I switch back and forth, I'm always shocked by how many PC laptops…

Not sure about the patents that apply to Apple's trackpads, which is probably the biggest reason... the closest I've seen have been on some of the chromebook models, which aren't near as good, but still better than most... then again, it's entirely possible google is paying for the ip licensing.

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Post by tjl » Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 6:42 AM UTC

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Seems to drive Spotify on my OSX without me doing anything special... ?

Once it's running yes. But if you close Spotify, pressing the play key will start iTunes. It's quite infuriating.

Have you tried Bowtie or BeardedSpice?

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/mac-users-heres-control-streami...

I use Bowtie for a few things, but haven't really tried it for this purpose as I pretty much just use iTunes as I have several decades worth of music I've bought in it.

http://bowtieapp.com