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Re: Plasma Mobile

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Yeah... new mobile platform is a really hard thing to do - and without a designer (whom they clearly don't have), it's impossible. Nobody will use this.

Why are you so negative? Why do you say they don't have a designer? Did you ask? This is a technology preview, and for a new development platform, it's quite nice already.

The interface looks as if it was designed by a programmer. I would be really surprised if a professional designer designed it.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

FWIW, this is very early and not representative of where we want the UI to be. A lot of our effort so far has gone into e.g. getting our Wayland story sorted out (we knew we wanted to be Wayland from day 1 on the phone, and do it properly to where every line of code we write also gets Plasma Desktop closer to being on Wayland) and getting all our service infrastructure ducks in a row on a phone device. Our community…

Fair enough. I know my post was quite negative, but the first thing people see is that first page. It's definitely worth making that initial image look like something you can and would want to use. Text so small as to be unreadable, on a huge screen, was just a big red flag for me.

I understand, and I don't mind it at all. We should all get upset at things that need improvement to drive that improvement.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Too little and too late.

Even if the GUI would be perfect and much better than android or iOS (which I greatly doubt, simply because of the man hours that went into those projects) there are two big things missing. An ecosystem of apps+apis and IMO even more important: sandboxing.

Applications having access to basically everything just doesn't fit anymore today. It would have made much more sense to concentrate on these technologies and get sandboxing on the desktop, as all the competitors are also still struggling with that.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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The front page is just a marketing thingie. Look at the video. It looks great.

You must have some very low standards for "looking great". Like they say, this is a prototype and it shows. The design is all over the place. The one thing that sticks out the most is that there is no sense of scale at all. Everything is either ridiculously huge or tiny. For example, look at the compact status bar: really small text and icons. Then look at the navigation icons on the bottom of the screen, the dialer…

User experience should be the driving factor when prototyping. This looks more like a me-too copying of features from competitors.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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So, there is not much information on the website yet, but this is basically a full stack for mobiles, based on Wayland and Kwin for the UI and Ofono for the phone part. The reference implementation is based on Ubuntu Touch, and use libhybris to get hw support. However, it's different from UT, by the fact that it's not using Mir, but Wayland directly through Kwin. It seems to run Ubuntu Touch applications, X11 applica…

Are there plans to expand hardware options? Is there a donate option? I can't wait to stop dealing with running Android.

HW Expansion : Not that I'm aware of.

Donations : https://www.kde.org/

Thanks for the support :)

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Too little and too late. Even if the GUI would be perfect and much better than android or iOS (which I greatly doubt, simply because of the man hours that went into those projects) there are two big things missing. An ecosystem of apps+apis and IMO even more important: sandboxing. Applications having access to basically everything just doesn't fit anymore today. It would have made much more sense to concentrate on th…

Containerized apps are coming to Linux soon, there's some effort going on over here : http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xdg-app

There's also Limba : https://github.com/ximion/limba

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Too little and too late. Even if the GUI would be perfect and much better than android or iOS (which I greatly doubt, simply because of the man hours that went into those projects) there are two big things missing. An ecosystem of apps+apis and IMO even more important: sandboxing. Applications having access to basically everything just doesn't fit anymore today. It would have made much more sense to concentrate on th…

Doesn't wayland come with a better security model than X?

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Free OS on your phone is great and all, but it's got that quirky linux UI problem where usability is an after thought to "me too" features. For example, I can't read any of the text on the phone image on the front page, and physically the image on my screen is bigger than my iPhone. So the text is unreadable in the OS by default?

FWIW, this is very early and not representative of where we want the UI to be. A lot of our effort so far has gone into e.g. getting our Wayland story sorted out (we knew we wanted to be Wayland from day 1 on the phone, and do it properly to where every line of code we write also gets Plasma Desktop closer to being on Wayland) and getting all our service infrastructure ducks in a row on a phone device. Our community…

I'd actually disagree - this is a problem that KDE has in general. KDE has a focus on features and customisation but chronically lacks in the UI/UX department, whereas GNOME has a focus on UI/UX but is obsessed with one-size-fits-all and is actually going backwards with options, and ends up somewhat braindead as a result if you don't like exactly what the GNOME team likes.

Seriously, KDE isn't new. Desktop has really shitty defaults, which is a major problem considering how many people don't know how to change the settings. I'm talking about "not a computer person" people, here.

Re: Plasma Mobile

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Too little and too late. Even if the GUI would be perfect and much better than android or iOS (which I greatly doubt, simply because of the man hours that went into those projects) there are two big things missing. An ecosystem of apps+apis and IMO even more important: sandboxing. Applications having access to basically everything just doesn't fit anymore today. It would have made much more sense to concentrate on th…

I think they are smarter than what you think , They know this is not for everybody , and this is not going to replace android/iOS ever. They targeting people like me who are sick of android/iOS because of closeness of platform.Even canonical with its huge budget admits they don't have plan to replace iOS/android (which as you told is too late for such product , even for Microsoft which have shitload of money ) but they targeting specific user's.

p.s. This is my understanding as simple end-user.I might be wrong.

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