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Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by mavhc »

frik wrote: post #56
arbitrage wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The whole point of a business is to come up with a plan to get people to give it money for a service. If your entire business plan is to get someone else to give you money because people completely unrelated to and uninterested in it happen to be using your service, it's not really a good plan. I'm ecstatic about the seemingly new increase in paid-for content. If it means the long dark era of scatter-shot shotgun cre…

Would you like to go back to Internet stoneage where you had to pay per page view in Microsoft Network '95 (MSN v1) or Germany's BTX from 1980s. Would you like to subscribe on hundreds of websites to access their paywall? The WWW got popular because it's friction-free and many sites are paid by advertisement money. At the moment many ad networks are just stubborn (bad ads) and greedy taking big chunk of the ads money…

Would you like to go back to the AOL model, where sites got a proportion of the user's AOL subscription?

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by acdha »

HunOL wrote: post #59
abrowne wrote: post #51

Another option for Firefox is the built-in "tracking protection". It is off by default, but can be enabled via about:config (set privacy.trackingprotection.enabled to true). Works on Android, too.

And it breaks a lot of web sites.

Have you reported those? I've only encountered one and it was apparently fixed awhile back.

Re: UBlock Origin

#63

Post by talles »

Lawtonfogle wrote: post #58
fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

>Should I sell my soul to the devil and work on freemium, coins, exploit OCD and rich-parents kids, You can do freemium without selling your soul. Look at LoL or Path of Exile for the best examples. Others would be Bloons TD 5 or Bloons City, where coins allow you to skip ahead, but slow downs are not purposefully added. Only when you add something that basically drains the fun out of the game unless money is spent a…

I never played those games you mentioned but I don't get "allow you to skip ahead, but slow downs are not purposefully added".

If you can skip ahead by putting money on it you have slowed down who didn't (right?)

Re: UBlock Origin

#64

Post by Matumio »

fridek wrote: post #53
bobajeff wrote: post #48

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If you only see a choice between "Free to Play" or hosting Ads then you have a problem greater than choosing your business model. You don't value your work enough to consider it valuable enough to pay for outright. First, ponder why that is, then address that issue.

Because: * it's not what I want - I prefer to deliver it for free and do not plan for it to become any source of income, just to not have costs scaling with popularity * I don't need to sell it - I'm reasonably wealthy, with a good 40h/week job and salary. This is a side project and will loose it's charm when I convert it to a business project. * it's hard - I work on a browser-based game (no easy to implement paymen…

What costs? Is hosting really so expensive, or is it something else? Obviously you have invested a lot of time. Personally, I wouldn't think twice about spending, say, $10 per month to publish something where I have invested the equivalent of $100000 in unpaid developer time (and yes, I have done that, although it's strange thinking of it in money when I did it for the challenge). Maybe it's more a psychological issue (pay for giving something away) rather than the actual cost?

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by frik »

mavhc wrote: post #61
frik wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would you like to go back to Internet stoneage where you had to pay per page view in Microsoft Network '95 (MSN v1) or Germany's BTX from 1980s. Would you like to subscribe on hundreds of websites to access their paywall? The WWW got popular because it's friction-free and many sites are paid by advertisement money. At the moment many ad networks are just stubborn (bad ads) and greedy taking big chunk of the ads money…

Would you like to go back to the AOL model, where sites got a proportion of the user's AOL subscription?

I would like that the Web stays at it is.

Re: UBlock Origin

#66

Post by andybak »

gpvos wrote: post #43
bhouston wrote: post #32

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And don't forget that uBlock blocks Google Analytics, breaks most popular travel sites if you try to actually purchase, and also error reporters like NewRelix. Most of this is the fault of the default inclusion of EasyPrivacy I believe.

Blocking Google Analytics is the main point of any blocker I would consider using.

Would you block any analytics tracker - even one that didn't share data with 3rd parties? (i.e. a tracker that was purely to enable to site owners to gain insight into their visitors)

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by lahata »

fridek wrote: post #35

Honest question - what business model for free content do you see other than ads? I understand all the privacy and distraction issues related, but increasingly many news sites I read feature only paid content. I suppose it's connected to the rise of ad blocking. At the moment I'm not hosting any content of such kind myself, but I wanted to publish a game and I'm facing the same question. Should I sell my soul to the…

Disclaimer: I'm a founder at Stands and we work on a product that addresses this issue specifically

From a wider perspective - I believe that the ideal is a fair ad based model which funds a free web and promotes equality and democracy, but it needs to put us - the citizens of the web - on an equal playing field in the ad/data business, and respect us (our privacy and experience). We wrote a post about it here: http://blog.standsapp.org/how-to-fund-a-free-web/

In short: - It blocks obtrusive ads - Protects your privacy by blocking tracking companies - Shows only standard banner ads and the revenue from these ads split between the site and the charity you choose - Provides you with the ability to control your online experience by limiting the amount of ads and other capabilities - Ads load after content loads

We're working on a product publishers can use to convert ad block users to Stands, let me know if and when you are interested to work with us on the beta.

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by mistermann »

ikeboy wrote: post #54
bhouston wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And don't forget that uBlock blocks Google Analytics, breaks most popular travel sites if you try to actually purchase, and also error reporters like NewRelix. Most of this is the fault of the default inclusion of EasyPrivacy I believe.

I use it for default browsing, if anything doesn't work I open it in an incognito window. Can't complain.

An incognito window doesn't use add-ins?

Re: UBlock Origin

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Post by JonLim »

bhouston wrote: post #32
izietto wrote: post #22

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It has been discontinued too early; from an AdBlock Edge comment, titled "uBlock may be fast, but is rubbish": > I've been using uBlock now for a while and while it is light and fast, it's is rubbish to use. Exclusions are idiotic, context menu controls don't work, default filters selection is idiotic, it doesn't sync settings like Adblock Edge does, I'm just starting to hate it. > I'd too like to see AdBlock Edge co…

And don't forget that uBlock blocks Google Analytics, breaks most popular travel sites if you try to actually purchase, and also error reporters like NewRelix. Most of this is the fault of the default inclusion of EasyPrivacy I believe.

I enjoy how efficient Chrome has become as a result of uBlock, but it has a couple niggling issues. The most prominent of which is that embedded videos on a page (like those made on Reddit comment threads via RES) will display the ads, and there's nothing I can really do about it.

Still spiffy fast, at least.

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