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Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Where to, if I may ask? I have some small projects I'm trying to get away from SF, and the mailing lists are the hardest bit --- finding mailing list providers which support bulk import isn't easy.

GroupServer [1] is very nice, a hybrid between an online forum interface and a fully-functional mailing list. The installation and configuration process is fairly involved, though, but turnkey hosting is available through OnlineGroups.net [2], from $2/month [3]. [1] http://groupserver.org [2] https://onlinegroups.net/ , https://onlinegroups.net/l/groupserver [3] https://onlinegroups.net/pricing/

That looks fantastic.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Are there any big projects still using SourceForge? I know "big" is a little subjective here, but it seems like most active projects have already migrated.

lame (lib-lame :) ) I maintain a ffmpeg build and two of codec code destinations are SF. lame and opencore-amr.

That reminds me - SoX is still there.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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SourceForge was founded 1999. Now, 16 years later they start to abuse their power. GitHub was launched 2008. Does this mean we can expect GitHub to start abusing our data by 2024?

Build a user base with a great free product, abuse that user base for money until it leaves you for some competitor. Build social capital, spend it. The market, on average, doesn't just want profits from a tech company, it wants significant short-term growth in either revenues or userbase, and if the latter reaches saturation the former will occur.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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I got malware in the installer for Filezilla on my Mac. They shove malware in all sorts of non-windows stuff these days...

I didn't believe you at first, but I just went to install it and...wow... https://imgur.com/a/o6cSW

I thought you were going to show a virus result - the screen you showed is very unambiguously an opt-in screen, it even has the term "Accept" (as opposed to some other word like next or install) making you look at it - if the text said something else you would be very likely to just click it. The button at the left 'skip' is also clear about your other option (if it said 'cancel' it would sound like you're aborting installation.)

I just don't see how this is a trick. There's not even a "default" option here, except for the Accept button being on the right. How can anyone possibly click the word "Accept" without even glancing at the text surrounding it - even a glance shows you the giant icon with the slogan "Mac Cleaner Clean Up Junk Files on Your Mac"? If you look at the bullet points, the first one clearly identifies what it does. So it's an opt-in screen. There's no default. The action word is "Accept" and the top bullet is about the additional software you would be installing, with a giant picture and caption showing the same thing. Or you can click "skip."

This is above-board if you're going to do this sort of thing. Hell, given how above-board it is I might just click "Accept" in this case! (knowing that the devs opted into it as well.)

It is very, very hard to read this as anything other than an opt-in screen. How can you be any less ambiguous??

EDIT: I didn't even notice, there is even grey small text that spells this out in completely unambiguous words! (Thank you for considering this offer from our advertiser...your choice does not affect installation of FileZilla.)

I honestly don't even know that I would ask FileZilla to change anything whatsoever about this screen. It's great!

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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From the "tmux-users" mailing list: > Will pull requests on GitHub now be allowed as a means of contributing patches? > No, patches still need to come by email to me [Nicholas Marriott] or the ML. I wonder, what's the main reason behind it? What's wrong with Github PRs?

Even if there are no problems with github PRs in themselves, the tmux developers will certainly have an established workflow for reviewing patches and applying them. The last thing they want to do while they're migrating from one hosting site to another is to upend their entirely functional code review workflow when that's not the thing that's broken and forcing the migration...

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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Where to, if I may ask? I have some small projects I'm trying to get away from SF, and the mailing lists are the hardest bit --- finding mailing list providers which support bulk import isn't easy.

Discourse is what we're currently looking at. They have very nice pricing options for both one-time-installs and continued hosting/support.

I thought Discourse was a forum software.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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I notice they're using Google Groups for mailing lists - how have people found Google Groups as a technical mailing list provider?

It's not bad, to be honest, just a bit awkward to use if you don't have a google account (it's sometimes fairly hard to subscribe without one). I wouldn't recommend it for FOSS projects. Unfortunately, there's not much alternative out there. I'm currently looking at Discourse, which has a mailing list mode. We might move to that.

freelists.org is what I have been using for mailing lists.

Re: Tmux has left SourceForge

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From the "tmux-users" mailing list: > Will pull requests on GitHub now be allowed as a means of contributing patches? > No, patches still need to come by email to me [Nicholas Marriott] or the ML. I wonder, what's the main reason behind it? What's wrong with Github PRs?

I believe, and I might be very wrong, that tmux is developed in the OpenBSD CVS tree, and patches are then merged from there to Github. The patches would need to be applied to the code in CVS, so a Github pull-request would be useless.

FreeBSD has worked out a combined svn and github pull request workflow, although mayb esvn is easier to do this with than cvs.
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