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Here's what's wrong: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9586941
An Analysis of Nespresso
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#62Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm always surprised by bad coffee at home given how easy it is to make medium quality coffee: buy a medium ground coffee from the supermarket that mentions somewhere Africa or South America, put in a cafetiere and wait 5 minutes.
And then what? You just made coffee for 5 or 10 cups but you'll only drink one or two. And you won't throw away what's left, so you'll reheat it later, maybe twice, maybe more. And maybe you'll find it a little too strong the second time, so you'll add a little hot water to dilute it. And then you're well on the road to abomination.
There are very small cafetière's available, including single-serving ones.
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#63I bought a "real" coffee machine for me and my colleagues (Jura impressa F50 -- https://us.jura.com/en/homeproducts/machines/IMPRESSA-F50-Cl... ) and, despite being a bit more complicated than a nespresso one, it cost less (despite buying pretty good coffee beans, freshly roasted, and despite the high cost of the machine), and the taste is IMHO better (but this is only a personal opinion). The only cons: cleaning a b…
True, "real" modern super automatics coffee machines are a lot cheaper in the long run (cheap raw coffee) and you have to clean them only as often as a Nespresso machine. (Considering no milk processing is involved, which means care-taking in all cases). It seems like they convinced the public to install a vending machine on the customers expense. It's like Coca/Pepsi Cola convince the public to install a Cola vending machine at their homes.
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#64I don't think the pods are expensive. At 70-80 cents each, that's under a fourth the cost of having an espresso of comparable quality made for you outside of your home.
A real espresso pulled by a professional will run you €0.90 in Europe (unless you live in a the center of Paris, in which case you might get to spend as much as €1.50). There's usually one of those professionals within 50 yards of your home, possibly even on your walking route to work. So it's not always even saving you money. Certainly compared to driving out of your way to a Starbucks and paying US (or god forbid,…
where are you getting $2.50 bag of coffee? decent single origin seems to be ~$16-20 for 12 oz these days
Re: An Analysis of Nespresso
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm always surprised by bad coffee at home given how easy it is to make medium quality coffee: buy a medium ground coffee from the supermarket that mentions somewhere Africa or South America, put in a cafetiere and wait 5 minutes.
And then what? You just made coffee for 5 or 10 cups but you'll only drink one or two. And you won't throw away what's left, so you'll reheat it later, maybe twice, maybe more. And maybe you'll find it a little too strong the second time, so you'll add a little hot water to dilute it. And then you're well on the road to abomination.
I never knew that people did that! That is incredible
Re: An Analysis of Nespresso
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm always surprised by bad coffee at home given how easy it is to make medium quality coffee: buy a medium ground coffee from the supermarket that mentions somewhere Africa or South America, put in a cafetiere and wait 5 minutes.
And then what? You just made coffee for 5 or 10 cups but you'll only drink one or two. And you won't throw away what's left, so you'll reheat it later, maybe twice, maybe more. And maybe you'll find it a little too strong the second time, so you'll add a little hot water to dilute it. And then you're well on the road to abomination.
Never had this problem. I have two large, a medium and a small one. I get to pick my coffee and it doesn't cost a fortune.
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#67Earlier quoted context omitted.
My suspicion is you might see the same improvement that members of the high-fi community get when they switch to gold-played cables and electricity smoothers.
Your suspicion is likely wrong though - I have no science to back this up but am 100% sure in blind tetsts people with normally developped taste buds would pick the freshly ground one from the pre-ground one. The difference in taste is just too big to ignore (or at least the difference between the ground vs pre-ground I have here at home is). Unlike the improvements you compare them to, which can usually not even be…
Nespresso capsules are made of aluminium and completely sealed, so they probably retain all the qualities of the coffee inside until the very moment they're used.
Blind tests would be very interesting, I hope that's what's coming in a future article!
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#68I would be on board with these if it wasn't for their terrible environmental impact. I'd be interested in an analysis on that - but until these capsules can basically compost I'll be sticking to loose grounds thank you.
> I would be on board with these if it wasn't for their terrible environmental impact
FWIW in europe you can drop the capsules for recycling or give them back to the courrier delivering new ones, by and large they're just aluminium and coffee grounds so they're pretty recyclable. IIRC nespresso has >80% used capsule collection in their home country of Switzerland and in neighbouring France (where nespresso is quite popular).
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#69"Speciality coffee doesn’t offer anything to the consumer who wants to drink great espresso at home, but doesn’t want a new hobby." This is an amazing take away, and I think many coffee roasters, gin distillers and beer Brewers ought remember it.
I've taken it a step further - I use pre-packaged cold-brewed coffee. Cons: Doesn't have as good a taste Pros: Stomach acid is lower than warm brew, prep time: 30s w/milk + sweetener, and I take it cold so I don't need a double-wall mug, just a large strawcup. If I want warm, I heat the milk beforehand. So far so good - costs have been less than buying beans for my espresso superautomatic much less packets for a keur…
> All I have to do is to stock up at TJs for a month at a time.
... or you make the cold brew yourself.
For just one cup of cold brew for the next morning, I grind about 20 gr. of coffee, and add 80 gr. of cold water from the tap. One gentle stir, and then the cup goes in the refrigerator for the night. The next morning, I pour the coffee through a paper filter, add ice, perhaps some sugar syrup and/or a little milk.
That's just for one cup. Blue Bottle Coffee has a recipe on their site using a pound of ground coffee. The result can be stored for at least 5-6 days in the refrigerator.
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#70The site is unavailable so I don't know what's in the article, but from the comments I gather it's looking at the benefits of owning a Nespresso machine at home? Here in France everyone has a Nespresso machine or two (I have three); you can buy Nespresso capsules from Nespresso shops, or alternative capsules in any supermarket, anywhere. What Nespresso sells is simplicity and consistency, and an above-average taste.…
> Here in France everyone has a Nespresso machine or two (I have three).
I'm French, I live in France, and I have no such machine, and none of my friends has one. YMMV.
According to a 2014 report of the "Autorité de la Concurrence", 25% of French families have this kind of machine, with 85% of those being real Nestlé products.
Among my friends, some reject hard capsules for their cost. The cost of Nespresso coffee is within 60 to 90 €/kg, whereas classic arabica coffee is sold around 12 €/kg (I buy high-end ground on-demand coffee for around 30 €/kg). Others friends have ethical objections (against Nestlé, the captive market, the amount of waste, and so on).