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Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by wmeredith »

aikah wrote: post #37

I'm fascinated by Wordpress success. It's an horrible peace of software, with horrible PHP code 4.x style, a db schema only a beginner could have come up with and an ecosystem with a lot of trash(not even talking about the admin which is hideous ). Yet it's a blazing success in the CMS space, because of 3 things that are insanely overlooked by other CMS developers : - Ease of installation - It runs on a minimal PHP/A…

This is an awesome comment. It's like a mechanic saying Chevy's are a nightmare under the hood. The percentage of people buying cars that give a fuck is rapidly approaching zero because they never even see it.

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by icc97 »

aikah wrote: post #37

I'm fascinated by Wordpress success. It's an horrible peace of software, with horrible PHP code 4.x style, a db schema only a beginner could have come up with and an ecosystem with a lot of trash(not even talking about the admin which is hideous ). Yet it's a blazing success in the CMS space, because of 3 things that are insanely overlooked by other CMS developers : - Ease of installation - It runs on a minimal PHP/A…

> It has a great backward compatibly, unlike other solutions that break everything with each major version.

I'd say this is one of the main reasons. WordPress has made continued steady progress which is really quite remarkable to maintain.

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by MichaelTieso »

Domenic_S wrote: post #48
aikah wrote: post #37

I'm fascinated by Wordpress success. It's an horrible peace of software, with horrible PHP code 4.x style, a db schema only a beginner could have come up with and an ecosystem with a lot of trash(not even talking about the admin which is hideous ). Yet it's a blazing success in the CMS space, because of 3 things that are insanely overlooked by other CMS developers : - Ease of installation - It runs on a minimal PHP/A…

Here's something crazy to me about WP - it stores the site's domain in the database . This makes it incredibly obnoxious to set up a local environment of a live site (or automated CI environments with arbitrary subdomains). I had to hack together a bash script to fire UPDATEs to the db to modify these values. Drupal on the other hand looks for /sites/$DOMAIN/settings.php, and there's nothing domain-specific in that f…

You can change the sites domain within `wp-config.php` too. See http://codex.wordpress.org/Editing_wp-config.php#WordPress_a...

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by camworld »

jcurbo wrote: post #50
callmeed wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have any links about this FCC ruling and school districts? I'm intrigued.

I was interested too (as a former school IT admin), a little googling turned up this: http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/08/01/37erate.h33.htm... E-Rate is a major funding source for school Internet connections and is ran by the FCC. The sidebar on that article says: "Phases out support for some non-broadband services, such as voice services; and eliminates support for others, such as email, Web-hosting, paging,…

Yes, that is exactly right. Public school districts can no longer use E-Rate (federal money) funds to pay for web site hosting or web site management systems. The FCC decided to re-allocate $5 billion in E-Rate funds for a 5-year wifi roll-out plan for all public school districts.

You can read more about the FCC's E-Rate Modernization Order :https://www.fcc.gov/page/summary-second-e-rate-modernization...

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by camworld »

dubcanada wrote: post #35
camworld wrote: post #23

This is a really smart acquisition. WordPress continues to dominate the CMS market. With the upcoming REST API, it's only going to get better. I'm watching niche CMS industry after niche CMS industry crumble under the continual migration to WordPress. The latest victims are the small CMS vendors who have been selling proprietary CMS solutions to public school districts for the past 15 years, charging far too much mon…

I've never heard of this FCC thing you speak of. And most schools I know are migrating to Drupal.

Drupal is a great platform as well. I work with K-12 school districts every day and the majority are not choosing Drupal because the support and custom Drupal development needed is too expensive. Instead, they are choosing WordPress.

The exception is the higher education market (colleges and universities), who are choosing Drupal over WordPress.

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by Domenic_S »

MichaelTieso wrote: post #63
Domenic_S wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's something crazy to me about WP - it stores the site's domain in the database . This makes it incredibly obnoxious to set up a local environment of a live site (or automated CI environments with arbitrary subdomains). I had to hack together a bash script to fire UPDATEs to the db to modify these values. Drupal on the other hand looks for /sites/$DOMAIN/settings.php, and there's nothing domain-specific in that f…

You can change the sites domain within `wp-config.php` too. See http://codex.wordpress.org/Editing_wp-config.php#WordPress_a...

I have never had good luck with that. Some generated URLs still use the DB value and so forth. Perhaps it's an indictment of plugin developers vs WP core. I still cannot think of a good reason for that value to be in the DB at all.

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by pdevr »

MichaelTieso wrote: post #8

Hey all. I'm Michael, a Developer Advocate at WooThemes and now Automattic. I'm happy to answer any questions. As you can imagine, we're all really excited about this.

After reading your answers, it looks like at this point, you don't have clear visibility into a lot of areas (integration with Wordpress, impact to third party developers, etc) as to what is going to happen in the future. Understandably so.

Do you have any area (like better documentation, which you wrote about) where you have a clear vision about the future? Can you tell us about that? I think that will be more useful.

Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by [deleted] »

aikah wrote: post #37

I'm fascinated by Wordpress success. It's an horrible peace of software, with horrible PHP code 4.x style, a db schema only a beginner could have come up with and an ecosystem with a lot of trash(not even talking about the admin which is hideous ). Yet it's a blazing success in the CMS space, because of 3 things that are insanely overlooked by other CMS developers : - Ease of installation - It runs on a minimal PHP/A…

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Re: WooThemes joins Automattic

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Post by akor »

Domenic_S wrote: post #48
aikah wrote: post #37

I'm fascinated by Wordpress success. It's an horrible peace of software, with horrible PHP code 4.x style, a db schema only a beginner could have come up with and an ecosystem with a lot of trash(not even talking about the admin which is hideous ). Yet it's a blazing success in the CMS space, because of 3 things that are insanely overlooked by other CMS developers : - Ease of installation - It runs on a minimal PHP/A…

Here's something crazy to me about WP - it stores the site's domain in the database . This makes it incredibly obnoxious to set up a local environment of a live site (or automated CI environments with arbitrary subdomains). I had to hack together a bash script to fire UPDATEs to the db to modify these values. Drupal on the other hand looks for /sites/$DOMAIN/settings.php, and there's nothing domain-specific in that f…

You can use the following constants in the wp-config.php to fix:

define('WP_HOME', 'http://example.com');

define('WP_SITEURL', 'http://example.com');

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