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Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by Sir_Substance »

Immortalin wrote: post #44
Sir_Substance wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's as dishonest as btsyncs statement, in it's own way. Because it's closed source, we don't /know/ how secure btsync is. However, we do know that microsoft, google and dropbox will just hand your shit over if the US government asks. Something is better than nothing. The only open source competitors in this space are owncloud, who /still/ won't let me upload to both a work and person cloud at the same time, and sy…

Try Syncthing

>and syncthing, which I have high hopes for but which currently has a workflow so bad I think I'd rather just use a thumb drive.

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by nodata »

microtonal wrote: post #55
Immortalin wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Try Syncthing

Unfortunately, Syncthing only supports a subset of what Bittorrent Sync does: - There is no tracker/relay server infrastructure. As a result, Syncthing doesn't work if two peers are behind a firewall/NAT without uPnP or manual port forwarding. The number of peers behind carrier-grade NAT is only growing (IPv6 migrations) and if you are often on the move (hotels, etc.) you have no control over the firewall. - Syncthin…

> As a result, Syncthing doesn't work if two peers are behind a firewall/NAT

Yes it does, it uses local discovery to find the nodes.

> Syncthing does not support selective sync yet

Yes it does, but admittedly it's not user friendly.

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by seanp2k2 »

microtonal wrote: post #56
zaroth wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sync was great until it locked all my folders and demanded $39 to start working again. Their free tier makes it sound like you get 10 shares free but I think it actually turned out to be 10 folders including sub-folders within a share...

I think it actually turned out to be 10 folders including sub-folders within a share... No. The documentation says it is 10 shares with any number of subfolders and that is also my experience - when the Pro trial expired, I could sync 10 shares with a large number of subfolders without any problems. Of course, changing the number of shares from unlimited to 10 was a bait and switch move, and a scam because their webs…

Because then you don't generate recurring revenue. Microsoft also gets this now (finally).

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by microtonal »

nodata wrote: post #62
microtonal wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, Syncthing only supports a subset of what Bittorrent Sync does: - There is no tracker/relay server infrastructure. As a result, Syncthing doesn't work if two peers are behind a firewall/NAT without uPnP or manual port forwarding. The number of peers behind carrier-grade NAT is only growing (IPv6 migrations) and if you are often on the move (hotels, etc.) you have no control over the firewall. - Syncthin…

> As a result, Syncthing doesn't work if two peers are behind a firewall/NAT Yes it does, it uses local discovery to find the nodes. > Syncthing does not support selective sync yet Yes it does, but admittedly it's not user friendly.

Yes it does, it uses local discovery to find the nodes.

Sorry, I didn't formulate that clearly: two peers on different networks without uPnP or control over port forwarding.

Yes it does, but admittedly it's not user friendly.

https://github.com/syncthing/syncthing/issues/193

suggests otherwise. .stignore is not the same as selective sync, but more akin to BTSync's .sync/IgnoreList, it allows you to not sync files at all.

Selective sync means that e.g. all peers have file X, but you don't want to synchronize it on your laptop because it is too large.

https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/175

http://help.getsync.com/customer/portal/articles/1908818-wha...

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by aw3c2 »

Sir_Substance wrote: post #28
black_puppydog wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8626931

That's as dishonest as btsyncs statement, in it's own way. Because it's closed source, we don't /know/ how secure btsync is. However, we do know that microsoft, google and dropbox will just hand your shit over if the US government asks. Something is better than nothing. The only open source competitors in this space are owncloud, who /still/ won't let me upload to both a work and person cloud at the same time, and sy…

There is more than Owncloud and syncthing. For example give Seafile a try. It's really, really good.

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by mike-cardwell »

gcb0 wrote: post #36
mike-cardwell wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Run your own server? From my understanding there is no server involved. It is peer to peer and peers find each other by using DHT. It's closed source though, so you have to take their word on that.

it's bi bittorrent. you need a tracker. how do you think one client can find another? i hope you don't think it was a internet wide broadcast... :)

My understanding is that you don't need a tracker when using the DHT. I'm not sure what the bootstrap method is to find the initial peers to start accessing the DHT, but once you've found one peer, it's easy enough to find more. Feel free to correct me.

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by mike-cardwell »

cbd1984 wrote: post #52
mike-cardwell wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Kik is not end to end encrypted. Kik the company can access any message you send or receive.

And how do you know the same isn't true here?

We don't know what the truth is. We know what we're being told though. And Kik is telling us that their messages aren't encrypted end to end, whilst bittorrent are telling us their messages are.

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by robmcm »

black_puppydog wrote: post #25

I am particularly annoyed by the name "Whisper" for the "25 seconds only" messages: It got me to read on because I thought they interfacing with WhisperSystem's protocol for TextSecure. Because, open protocols, federation and all that. Would have been nice, right? Well, thumbs down for that. Also, if you don't trust the other to not want to log your conversation, don't send sensitive stuff. But then again people do s…

I guess it's a slight reassurance, for example if I want to send a password to someone I trust, I could do it with whisper knowing if someone picks up their phone in a weeks time it will be gone.

Re: BitTorrent Bleep Now Publicly Available Across All Major Platforms

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Post by reymus »

solomatov wrote: post #14
joshstrange wrote: post #6

I don't trust anything released by BitTorrent. Sync was a huge let down and frankly I'm not going to waste my time on any more of their software after the ad/toolbar/bitcoin-mining infested installers they put out for uTorrent...

Completely agree with you. If they want it to be focused on privacy, they should at least document their protocol.

I dont understand. Could you explain why?
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