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Announcing the Surface 3

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by alandarev »

Ravengenocide wrote: post #36
kyllo wrote: post #21

Does it overheat? Does it have a fan? Overheating and fan noise are a couple of the biggest complaints I heard about the Surface Pro 3.

>> It also doesn’t require a fan for cooling, which allows the device to be thinner and quieter. Seems like it doesn't have a fan, but until someone actually tests the device there is no real way to know if it will overheat or not.

There is. Worst case is 100% conversion of maximum power consumption to the heat. With 2W processor, you can safely assume overheating will not be an issue.

Other question would be whether processor is powerful enough to handle Windows 10 desktop applications (I am not talking about games, but even Skype is CPU hungry nowadays)

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by sz4kerto »

3pt14159 wrote: post #43
wz1000 wrote: post #24

Does anybody have experience of running Linux on previous Surface devices?

I'm interested in this question too. I set my girlfriend up with the Surface Pro 3, and besides it being awkward on her lap (ironically, the Surface needs a surface), I think its an amazing machine, especially for the price. It isn't quite Apple level with the hardware design, but it's close and it feels like Windows 8 was designed for it. My worry is that Ubuntu wouldn't really work with the touch screen. Edit: I sh…

Well, her use case is exactly where this Surface would work well (and maybe a Pro is a bit of an overkill).

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by SmellyGeekBoy »

Someone1234 wrote: post #30

I own a Surface Pro 3, and when I first got it I'd describe the experience as just mediocre. However Microsoft has been aggressively updating the software as has Intel, and as a result of those effects the SP3 has really stepped up and is now quite a good little tablet/ultrabook combo. I only have two remaining concerns with the SP3: My i5 version continues to get extremely hot near the middle of the device (e.g. whe…

> PS - Does anyone else keep seeing a completely white screen when visiting Microsoft's web-sites. It goes completely white for like 5 seconds and only then does any content load. I am using Chrome retail latest.

Yes, this has been happening to me as well for the past week or so. Also on Chrome latest.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by Someone1234 »

geerlingguy wrote: post #42

Actual product page: http://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/products/surface-3 And buy now page with tech specs: http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/en_US/pdp/productI... Looks like $499 for 64GB storage and 2GB RAM, $599 for 128GB storage and 4GB of RAM (WiFi models; 4G LTE model pricing wasn't showing for me).

That 2 GB, 64 GB model just looks painful to use. I've seen a lot of Windows installs use up more than 64 GB, in particular as WinSXS grows as more updates are installed (thus more duplicate DLLs are stored). If anyone asked me, I'd describe 128 GB as the "minimum" storage needed for Windows. And even then you aren't storing much if any user data on it.

4 GB is the minimum I'd run anything newer than Windows XP on. The SSD's speed might be able to "save" the 2 GB from being completely unusable, but it is still going to be damn slow with the amount of paging that's going to occur.

Honestly, I get that Microsoft wants to hit that magical $500 figure, but that device is going to give a really poor use experience in my opinion.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by [deleted] »

sz4kerto wrote: post #46
[deleted] wrote: post #37

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> it runs windows, and I have no interest in that Then it's definitely not your device. It's main point is that it runs full Windows. If I were using Macbook + iPhone, I would not think at all about buying this. It's probably more interesting for people like me who want to work on Windows and/or Linux, but definitely nothing from Apple. :) (I have no problem with the company or the products in general, just they don'…

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Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by untog »

[deleted] wrote: post #57
untog wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"I already have an iPhone, and iPad and a Macbook Pro. Why would I want this?" Er, I'm guessing you wouldn't, if your current setup works for you. But it could potentially replace the iPad that you rarely use and the Macbook that you do. If I was in the market for a new laptop I'd strongly consider a Surface 3 Pro with a docking station - perfect for when I'm sat at my desk with a monitor (what I do with my Macbook a…

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For an iPhone? Of course not. For a Macbook? Sure it is. Sure, so you don't like Windows, but for most people it's fine.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by mikelat »

I was honestly hoping they'd give up on the whole touchscreen + mouse/keyboard interface integration, this announcement pretty much confirms they're in it for the long haul. Both inputs are vastly different so their UIs are full of compromises and over-sized controls.

Re: Announcing the Surface 3

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Post by joshuapants »

Someone1234 wrote: post #56
[deleted] wrote: post #37

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> I already have an iPad that's full size and while it was very nice, I don't use it very much. The iPad is a content consumption device. The Surface is both a content creation device AND content consumption device. For example, if I want to run a IDE on an iPad then I'm ultimately using a highly interactive web-site even if that website is presented within an app. On the Surface I can run pretty much anything: Netbe…

> Then use it as an inexpensive ultrabook. How much does an ultrabook cost? $700, $800, $1000? This costs $500

Once you add the keyboard cover, it approaches the low-end of ultra book prices (especially if you get the model with enough RAM). That said, I think it offers more value than a basic ultrabook anyway, especially if you get the pen.

I will likely end up buying one.

edit: somehow didn't finish my last sentence

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