“Reasons you shouldn't join us: if you're looking for work-life balance.”

Post by tiagocesar » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 6:04 PM UTC

gipp wrote: post #48

akuma73 wrote: post #38

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Employers pay their employees exactly what they're worth - by definition. If an employee is dissatisfied with their pay, they have the option to either negotiate a higher salary or find another job with higher pay.

There's a tremendous amount of idealization involved there -- that the cost of renegotiation/finding a new job is zero (it's not), that no systematic effects outside the market exist lowering salaries (they do), etc. As an approximation , employees are paid what they're worth. It's an approximation, not definitional.

Post by wkdown » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 7:13 PM UTC

imroot wrote: post #35

I had a company effectively tell me the same thing -- that taking their job would be disastrous for my hobbies/family ("We work from 10AM until 11PM most days, and later on Friday and Saturday") and then gave me a salary formula that would bring me down to making less than half of what I was currently making. I politely declined -- and am still getting emails from them once a week saying that they'd love to have me o…

Post by s54b32dd » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 8:28 PM UTC

falcolas wrote: post #29

littletimmy wrote: post #18

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Wait $100k salary with 6% equity at max sounds not bad at all if you believe in their idea. Although I highly doubt they're a once in a decade opportunity that will be changing the world in a better way.

$100k for 60+ hour work weeks in San Francisco does not as that great an opportunity. And $100k is the top of the salary range.

Post by sp332 » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 9:21 PM UTC

s54b32dd wrote: post #64

sp332 wrote: post #56

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It is tough. What do you do that's so valuable?

I'm (obviously) not the person you're replying to, but information security, financial analyst, systems analyst (ok, some basic programming skill required), systems architect, IT audit all come to mind. That's just within the scope of the jobs I've been asked to interview for within the last 3-4 months. I'm a CISSP with a couple years of infosec consulting & audit experience; I can read/write SQL, and that's about it…

Post by apta » Thu, Mar 19, 2015, 11:20 PM UTC

Iftheshoefits wrote: post #66

apta wrote: post #62

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Are you based in the Bay Area? Do you work at a large company (Google, Apple, MS)?

Yes to the first, no to the second (I would almost certainly not qualify for the ones you listed--not for lack of talent, as I forgot more math by the time I took my PhD qualifying exams than most CS graduates ever learn, but for other reasons). It is my second job in this area, and I'm a bit (~15%) better compensated this time than last.