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Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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Kind of related. This week in Medellín, people got fed up of car dealerships parking in sidewalks and made fun interventions like practicing yoga and setting up beach furniture (article in spanish). http://www.semana.com/nacion/articulo/en-medellin-se-cansaro...

That reminds me of this in Mexico: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMPBlZMQhgo

Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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post #7

I wish valet parking was more prevalent. Does the additional real estate space from efficient parking lots/structures justify the labor cost of providing free valet to customers? Of course, the real solution lies in eliminating personal car usage altogether (e.g. Uber)

You can get valet in most places downtown on-demand with the new valet apps like Luxe and Zirx.

Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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post #25

Here we go with privatizing public resources and assets again. It galls me to hear moronic, self-serving corrupt things like "...the growing economic case for deploying our streets differently, for use by more than cars." In a capitalist predatory economy and society like ours public resources and assets should almost never be used for private purposes, especially not for private profit, gain, or benefit of any kind.…

Perhaps read the article. These are public spaces, like parks.

Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The city already owns the parking spots. No need to condemn anything. Just change the use. It isn't anti-car propaganda to point out that huge swaths of valuable public real estate are dedicated to providing free storage for empty cars, and to suggest that there are other uses that would be more beneficial to more people.

> The city already owns the parking spots. No need to condemn anything. Just change the use. OK, I'll be more explicit: I don't see any evidence that parking lots are special here. It sounds like you could build a park in the place of just about anything else and get the same benefit. It's not clear that this has anything to do with parking lots per se. > It isn't anti-car propaganda to point out that huge swaths of…

Well, I'd argue parking spaces are special: because they can be turned into free space, and then turned back into a parking space, very easily! Sometimes you don't even have to do anything - for proof, see parking restrictions intended to free up extra lanes during busy periods, that rely on nothing more than the time of day.

This makes the experiment quick and easy to do.

(You could also knock down a shop to see what would happen, but that would be harder to reverse, and the owner would be unlikely to agree to it.)

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post #9

On a closely related note, I read a very interesting piece about "curb cuts" in San Francisco. http://www.spur.org/publications/article/2008-06-01/eye-stre... The image showing the difference between Park Slope (without curb cuts) and a stretch of Dolores street in San Francisco (with curb cuts) is really eye-opening. It's a bummer, because a lot of SF really is small and walkable, but you know, we really do spend a…

Brings me to the broader question: why are Californians so bad at urban planning? LA is a disaster, SF has endless issues and pitfalls, the Bay Area is a sprawling mess. For a people who seem to pride themselves on being progressive, "enlightened" etc they sure are bad at livability, almost as bad as Texas.

99% Invisible had an episode recently that explained some of LA's sprawl: http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/episode-70-the-great-r...

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post #9

On a closely related note, I read a very interesting piece about "curb cuts" in San Francisco. http://www.spur.org/publications/article/2008-06-01/eye-stre... The image showing the difference between Park Slope (without curb cuts) and a stretch of Dolores street in San Francisco (with curb cuts) is really eye-opening. It's a bummer, because a lot of SF really is small and walkable, but you know, we really do spend a…

Brings me to the broader question: why are Californians so bad at urban planning? LA is a disaster, SF has endless issues and pitfalls, the Bay Area is a sprawling mess. For a people who seem to pride themselves on being progressive, "enlightened" etc they sure are bad at livability, almost as bad as Texas.

My impression is that poor urban planning correlates more with era than geography. One thing I noticed while traveling in Europe is that while the old urban centers are pretty great, the outskirts, built during the automotive era, are no better than anywhere else. There's just less of it.

That said, in SF (according to the article), some pre-automotive buildings were actually retrofitted to reflect the new car culture and add garages.

Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Of course, the real solution lies in eliminating personal car usage altogether (e.g. Uber) eg bicycles and walking

Or buses, trams and trains.

Or a combination of all of these things!

There are definitely times when it would be inappropriate to take a bike over an uber, and times when it would be extremely inconvenient to walk.

For instance: tonight. St. Patrick's day will be my girlfriend and I going to a brewery about 10 miles from our house to try a beer they are brewing especially for today.

It would be irresponsible of us to bike home after drinking, and inconvenient to walk that far. We will almost certainly be taking an uber.

Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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post #9

On a closely related note, I read a very interesting piece about "curb cuts" in San Francisco. http://www.spur.org/publications/article/2008-06-01/eye-stre... The image showing the difference between Park Slope (without curb cuts) and a stretch of Dolores street in San Francisco (with curb cuts) is really eye-opening. It's a bummer, because a lot of SF really is small and walkable, but you know, we really do spend a…

The thing that drove me nuts about curb cuts when I lived in SF were all the people who used them as sidewalk-blocking private parking spaces (which is illegal, not that the city ever did anything about it), forcing pedestrians into the street. It was especially maddening when I was pushing my bike up a steep hill; I can only imagine how frustrating it would be for those in wheelchairs or pushing strollers. Car culture makes people astonishingly selfish.

Re: Why parking spaces shouldn't always be wasted on cars

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post #9

On a closely related note, I read a very interesting piece about "curb cuts" in San Francisco. http://www.spur.org/publications/article/2008-06-01/eye-stre... The image showing the difference between Park Slope (without curb cuts) and a stretch of Dolores street in San Francisco (with curb cuts) is really eye-opening. It's a bummer, because a lot of SF really is small and walkable, but you know, we really do spend a…

Has SF ever been considered or even wanted to be considered a kid/family-friendly place? Watching from the sidelines, it's never seemed like a priority.

People move away when their kids reach school age. Not so much because it isn't kid friendly, but because it's too expensive to raise a family here. Not too many young families can shell out three quarters of a million bucks for a house, and the schools are just so-so.
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