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Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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What are people's favorite guides for setting up Ubuntu? http://www.funnestra.org/ubuntu is really good but they don't have a 9.10 update yet.

Slicehost has an excellent assortment of articles for Ubuntu (as well as plenty of other topics). It looks like they don't have any for Karmic yet though. http://articles.slicehost.com/

Slicehost don't officially support Karmic yet, they need to roll a special kernel for it. See: http://www.slicehost.com/articles/2009/10/28/ubuntu-karmic-k...

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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What do you use that isn't compatible?

I use a few packages from http://www.getdeb.net/ and have several PPAs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas installed as well so there's some secondary lag there as those developers release new packages for 9.10. Which shouldn't be too long, really. My main concern with this release is the ongoing, phantom ext4 (and sometimes 3?) corruption problem. Depending on which reports you read, it affects 64-bit installations s…

Out of curiosity ... why do you use the 64bit version? Do you have more than 4GB of ram?

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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I spend almost all of my time in firefox, emacs and a few other programs, which are the same on every platform. It really doesn't make much of a difference to me what desktop OS I use as long as it's cheap and it works with my hardware. I use Ubuntu on an HTPC because it's free and it (usually) works. I can't imagine what MS or Apple could do to improve on free + works. To me Linux is a lot closer now than it was in…

Firefox experience in Ubuntu is inferior to Firefox experience in Vista (at least on my Thinkpad). It's noticeably slower and fonts are uglier (even after installing exactly the same TrueType fonts as on Windows).

For me the fonts are better in Linux. The clear-type technology they introduced in Vista doesn't play well with existing monitors.

I have a 19 inch LCD display that's very decent, but I purchased it before Vista's release. The fonts on Vista have a red hallow that are unbearable, and I'm not the only one with this problem (and trust me, I played with the clear-type settings, although they don't make that easy).

On a big monitor with a typical DPI, clear-type just adds visual noise.

In Gnome the standard font anti-aliasing that doesn't use clear-type is great.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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It supports ARM; and a bunch of ARM-based netbooks are due out soon. They are cheaper and much more power efficient than intel's Atom etc. And Windows doesn't run on them (yet). I'm not a big linux vs. windows or ARM vs. intel fanatic, but I'm excited at what seems to be a disruptive inflection point coming up in the next year or so...

Being Windows-proof is, definitely, a feature for me ;-)

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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I use a few packages from http://www.getdeb.net/ and have several PPAs https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas installed as well so there's some secondary lag there as those developers release new packages for 9.10. Which shouldn't be too long, really. My main concern with this release is the ongoing, phantom ext4 (and sometimes 3?) corruption problem. Depending on which reports you read, it affects 64-bit installations s…

Out of curiosity ... why do you use the 64bit version? Do you have more than 4GB of ram?

You probably already know this, but mostly all modern CPU's (within the last 5+ years, I could be wrong on some accounts) are actually 64 bit, so I believe and I might be wrong, you are losing some optimizations.

Also its your RAM + Videocard Memory that is your memory, so while you might have say 4 gig, and it would seem to show up on your computer, its including your video card memory.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Font rendering is a big one for me. For some reason Ubuntu always looks.. ugly. The color scheme, font rendering, icons, etc, etc. Are there no designers in the open source community willing to help out? Or do the project leads not give a crap about design?

font rendering has always been a huge + on ubuntu for me http://junk.arandomurl.com/type.jpg

which paragraph represents what?

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Yeah, but it's coming out today, and it's going to get like a gazillion upvotes... so somebody wanted to earn the points by being the first to post. I've been using the beta for a while now, it is B.E.A.U.T.I.F.U.L. It's competing with OSX now (having surpassed Windows long long ago)

Actually, with Windows 7 and Snow Leopard out Ubuntu feels even further away from becoming mainstream. I want to like Linux on the desktop but looking at it objectively Win 7 and Snow Leopard are better.

please, define "better".

I am sure Windows runs Office, Visual Studio and Internet Explorer much better than Ubuntu, but that's not always a plus.

Neither is running Xcode.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Disk space requirements aren't obscure technical information. Providing it wouldn't confuse anyone, especially not anyone adept enough to install an operating system. It should be provided.

> Providing it wouldn't confuse anyone You fail at UI. Any and all information always adds some cognitive load and confuses the user. Every time you think you should show the user something, you must figure out a very convincing reason why you should not just leave it out. There clearly isn't one for majority of users who are going to install ubuntu, and for the rest, googling for two easy words isn't going to be too…

Disk space is required to install the OS. The alternative is letting the user download the .iso, burn it, then try to install only to have the installer complain about not having enough space. That is failing at UI. The additional cognitive load of reading a disk space requirement is negligible, especially compared to what someone who needed that information has to go through without it. You haven't even considered the possibility that a user might not think about how much space they have until they come across the requirement.

Not only are you wrong, but "You fail at UI" is a particularly abrasive way to be wrong.

Re: Ubuntu 9.10 Karmic Koala released

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Disk space requirements aren't obscure technical information. Providing it wouldn't confuse anyone, especially not anyone adept enough to install an operating system. It should be provided.

> Providing it wouldn't confuse anyone You fail at UI. Any and all information always adds some cognitive load and confuses the user. Every time you think you should show the user something, you must figure out a very convincing reason why you should not just leave it out. There clearly isn't one for majority of users who are going to install ubuntu, and for the rest, googling for two easy words isn't going to be too…

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