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Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

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Post by nickysielicki »

GabrielF00 wrote: post #60
nickysielicki wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll be the first to admit I'm a dumb 20 year old that largely doesn't understand the world. You seem to know a great deal about the intricacies of the history in the middle east. I know nothing. I'm genuinely curious, though, do you think there is no argument for what I said? >If you're young [...], and you have very few economic opportunities, and your society is incredibly corrupt, then a radical change becomes ve…

The comparison between Syria and Iran is a bit strange. These are two completely different countries. Syria is primarily Sunni, Iran primarily Shi'a. Syrians speak Arabic, Iranians speak Persian. The two countries have different systems of government, different histories, different cultures. When young people are angry in Iran, they're angry at a theocratic, clerical government. When young people were angry in Syria,…

Wow, thanks for typing that up. You're really knowledgeable!

I generally thought of Syria, Iran, Iraq, and Jordan sharing the same political and cultural climates. It's very interesting to hear that they're so different, I had no idea.

What do you think that America should do / shouldn't do to try to stabilize that region? How do you think America should be fighting terrorism?

More importantly, as we're on HN, how do you think that NSA data collection plays into it all?

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#62

Post by numinit »

mkramlich wrote: post #59

HBO here in Colorado was scheduled to show Citizenfour at 7pm local time. At approx 6pm I turned it on to get it ready. Black and silent. Continued black and silent up thru 9pm local when it was supposed to have ended. All other cable TV channels and local/public channels have worked normally during this period that I can tell. HBO worked fine yesterday and every day before for as long as I can remember. Unprecedente…

Whoa, really? What cable provider?

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#63

Post by logn »

logn wrote: post #50

> Snowden 2016 Is there any legal reason why this couldn't happen? Edit: aside from age if we're talking presidency.

Following up on my own question...

Section 3 prohibits the election or appointment to any federal or state office of any person who had held any of certain offices and then engaged in insurrection, rebellion or treason.

Section 3 was used to prevent Socialist Party of America member Victor L. Berger, convicted of violating the Espionage Act for his anti-militarist views, from taking his seat in the House of Representatives in 1919 and 1920.

- source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_Un...

And as far as pardoning oneself as president, it's possible: http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/19...

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#64

Post by tacos »

mkramlich wrote: post #59

HBO here in Colorado was scheduled to show Citizenfour at 7pm local time. At approx 6pm I turned it on to get it ready. Black and silent. Continued black and silent up thru 9pm local when it was supposed to have ended. All other cable TV channels and local/public channels have worked normally during this period that I can tell. HBO worked fine yesterday and every day before for as long as I can remember. Unprecedente…

It took me about three seconds to find your city, address, consulting company -- and that you're a Pisces. Do you really live in a world where the spooks block HBO but can't figure out who you are from this post?

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#65

Post by [deleted] »

numinit wrote: post #62
mkramlich wrote: post #59

HBO here in Colorado was scheduled to show Citizenfour at 7pm local time. At approx 6pm I turned it on to get it ready. Black and silent. Continued black and silent up thru 9pm local when it was supposed to have ended. All other cable TV channels and local/public channels have worked normally during this period that I can tell. HBO worked fine yesterday and every day before for as long as I can remember. Unprecedente…

Whoa, really? What cable provider?

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Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#66

Post by mkramlich »

numinit wrote: post #62
mkramlich wrote: post #59

HBO here in Colorado was scheduled to show Citizenfour at 7pm local time. At approx 6pm I turned it on to get it ready. Black and silent. Continued black and silent up thru 9pm local when it was supposed to have ended. All other cable TV channels and local/public channels have worked normally during this period that I can tell. HBO worked fine yesterday and every day before for as long as I can remember. Unprecedente…

Whoa, really? What cable provider?

its one of the two local dominant ones but I'm not sure which. I'll try to find out tomorrow. I'd say the city but this topic is already terrifying enough considering the nature of the "adversary", haha, oh man. if you email me I'll tell you city. I'm hoping to see reports from others. I find it hard to believe it would just be one person, one device. surely whoever/whatever did this would do an entire region/provider combo, at a minimum

10pm local. checked again. still black and silent. all other channels fine still, showing shows.

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#67

Post by mkramlich »

tacos wrote: post #64
mkramlich wrote: post #59

HBO here in Colorado was scheduled to show Citizenfour at 7pm local time. At approx 6pm I turned it on to get it ready. Black and silent. Continued black and silent up thru 9pm local when it was supposed to have ended. All other cable TV channels and local/public channels have worked normally during this period that I can tell. HBO worked fine yesterday and every day before for as long as I can remember. Unprecedente…

It took me about three seconds to find your city, address, consulting company -- and that you're a Pisces. Do you really live in a world where the spooks block HBO but can't figure out who you are from this post?

haha. fair point.

EDIT: if you think you have my address please email it to me (its in my profile). my opsec is far from perfect, haha, but I doubt its bad enough for you to have found it (that quickly anyway)

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#68

Post by tacos »

mkramlich wrote: post #67
tacos wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It took me about three seconds to find your city, address, consulting company -- and that you're a Pisces. Do you really live in a world where the spooks block HBO but can't figure out who you are from this post?

haha. fair point. EDIT: if you think you have my address please email it to me (its in my profile). my opsec is far from perfect, haha, but I doubt its bad enough for you to have found it (that quickly anyway)

[snip] :)

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#69

Post by mkramlich »

tacos wrote: post #68
mkramlich wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

haha. fair point. EDIT: if you think you have my address please email it to me (its in my profile). my opsec is far from perfect, haha, but I doubt its bad enough for you to have found it (that quickly anyway)

[snip] :)

I was not able to correlate that hint with either a correct or incorrect guess. but regardless, please only make such attempts in private via email. ;-)

update: 10:30pm and still the only local cable/public cbannel out is HBO. I'm sure perfectly innocent reason. *cough

EDIT: thank you

Re: Edward Snowden, Laura Poitras and Glenn Greenwald: AUAA

#70

Post by GabrielF00 »

nickysielicki wrote: post #61
GabrielF00 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The comparison between Syria and Iran is a bit strange. These are two completely different countries. Syria is primarily Sunni, Iran primarily Shi'a. Syrians speak Arabic, Iranians speak Persian. The two countries have different systems of government, different histories, different cultures. When young people are angry in Iran, they're angry at a theocratic, clerical government. When young people were angry in Syria,…

Wow, thanks for typing that up. You're really knowledgeable! I generally thought of Syria, Iran, Iraq, and Jordan sharing the same political and cultural climates. It's very interesting to hear that they're so different, I had no idea. What do you think that America should do / shouldn't do to try to stabilize that region? How do you think America should be fighting terrorism? More importantly, as we're on HN, how do…

I appreciate the complement. I've read a lot about the region and have traveled a bit, but am not an expert.

If we could resolve the Israeli/Palestinian issue that would be a great help. However, I don't think anyone is optimistic on that front. If the negotiations with Iran over its nuclear program are successful (and it looks promising) then at least one very scary scenario will be on the back burner. Pretty much everything else looks very grim.

I don't think that the NSA stuff will have any lasting impact on US relations with the Middle East/perceptions of America in the Middle East. It may have an impact on our ability to understand what's going on in the region, but I think that's very hard to assess from outside the government.

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