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Re: Inbox by Gmail: now in more places

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Post by moskie »

twoodfin wrote: post #39
moskie wrote: post #17

I still prefer Priority Inbox that's been around a few years now. I gave Inbox a shot, and it's very pretty, but I ultimately didn't find it as useful. Maybe I need to find the right settings to get Inbox to work the way I want, but... I'd be just as happy to not do that and stick with Priority Inbox. What I like about Priority Inbox is that it shows me important emails, regardless of the type ("type" meaning the dif…

Agree completely with this. I love the "mark and sweep" aspect of Inbox, but after a couple of months with it, I think I have to go back to the old interface. Inbox with a "Priority" bundle would be perfect.

What's weird is that if you try to create a label called "Important" in Inbox, it will say it already exists. Yet it doesn't show that label as an option when creating bundles. It's like they went out of their way to prevent you from doing exactly what you're suggesting.

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Post by astrocat »

buckbova wrote: post #45

I like Inbox, but I need a trash can shortcut. I don't want to archive junk mail. I guess it's only one extra click for the trash. Google apparently wants you to save everything.

I completely agree. I'd guess at least 50% of my email is deleted immediately after reading and not because it's unwanted, but because it holds no long-term value. Inbox assumes that all email is better archived than deleted which is simply not the case.

Re: Inbox by Gmail: now in more places

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Post by slewis »

Mahn wrote: post #38
dimillian wrote: post #27

This is the best way to manage your mail ever. I get a good amount of mail everyday, I use Inbox since day 1, and this is just too good. I can quickly scan a tag/inbox, and if I doesn't see anything relevant, just click on done, goodbye. See something you wants to do later? Just pin it. It'll stay on top. Everyone should give it a try. The product is very well done, and if you care enough about your mail to try new t…

Personally I'd love to try it, but all my work email is on Google Apps, not GMail, so no dice. I wish they had prioritized this because for me Inbox makes no sense for a low volume personal email account, which is what I use GMail for.

You can forward the work email to a regular gmail account (and set up the reply from feature so you can reply from yor work email address).

Re: Inbox by Gmail: now in more places

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Post by quadrangle »

Wow, no reply yet points out that this is part of the whole effort to undermine one of our few open standards (email) and eventually turn everything into siloed walled-garden platforms.

Once Google Inbox is used widely, people will find it that much harder to use other e-mail systems.

I can't seem to find it now, but I read a wonderful article about how Facebook messaging and all sorts of other silos are about these platforms controlling everything and Google wishes they could have that same sort of control and push everything into their own proprietary messaging, although this fragmentation is obviously destructive for the internet and society overall.

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Post by multiplegeorges »

quadrangle wrote: post #65

Wow, no reply yet points out that this is part of the whole effort to undermine one of our few open standards (email) and eventually turn everything into siloed walled-garden platforms. Once Google Inbox is used widely, people will find it that much harder to use other e-mail systems. I can't seem to find it now, but I read a wonderful article about how Facebook messaging and all sorts of other silos are about these…

How is that different than Gmail, or even Hotmail, before this?

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Post by kuschku »

jakebasile wrote: post #31
kyrra wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My guess: data for their Apps customers are backed by completely different set of servers/infrastructure. This probably allows them to tell large potential customers that if GMail proper is ever hacked, their data would be safe (as it's part of some different system). It may also give them extra time to pen test new systems to make sure it isn't hackable before deploying it to the people that do trust it with their c…

That's feasible. It still strikes me as odd that even if Apps Gmail is indeed on different infrastructure that it would have a completely different API. All other Gmail clients (web,app,etc) work on Apps Gmail, in addition to vanilla IMAP. I'd feel a lot better if they'd just explain what the hold up was, or if they don't plan on expanding to Apps customers. I'd be disappointed but at least I wouldn't be completely i…

Apps Gmail is different, cause you can even get it self-hosted. Several larger companies actually use it self-hosted in-house without running it through google.

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Post by mikefonseca »

dimillian wrote: post #27

This is the best way to manage your mail ever. I get a good amount of mail everyday, I use Inbox since day 1, and this is just too good. I can quickly scan a tag/inbox, and if I doesn't see anything relevant, just click on done, goodbye. See something you wants to do later? Just pin it. It'll stay on top. Everyone should give it a try. The product is very well done, and if you care enough about your mail to try new t…

I think it's terrible.

It doesn't sync with their previous star system, so you're unable to move back and forth on services when Inbox is buggy or vice versa. Inbox doesn't store any mail locally on mobile, so you're unable to search without an internet connection -- I am on the subway frequently and this is very problematic. With GMail, you have a one click delete system; with Inbox, you have two steps to permanently delete a message. This is cumbersome when you receive "a good amount of email", and you want to delete rather than archive.

It's a cleaner design, and the other features are nice incremental improvements, but the new features do not outweigh the benefits that the existing GMail app and service offers.

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Post by vikramhaer »

quadrangle wrote: post #65

Wow, no reply yet points out that this is part of the whole effort to undermine one of our few open standards (email) and eventually turn everything into siloed walled-garden platforms. Once Google Inbox is used widely, people will find it that much harder to use other e-mail systems. I can't seem to find it now, but I read a wonderful article about how Facebook messaging and all sorts of other silos are about these…

As i'm not too familiar with email as a standard, could you elaborate on how this undermines it?

Re: Inbox by Gmail: now in more places

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Post by blfr »

riyadparvez wrote: post #33
blfr wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Now works for Apps users. It just has a limited feature set from what I gather, which is even weirder.

Why is it weird? You can't simply mine the private data of paying customers which is needed for Google Now.

Why not? They could just make it opt-in through the admin console like almost everything else that companies might not need/want (Youtube, G+).
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