Does anyone have experience trying this with Firefox on PowerPC or ARMHF Linux? These platforms don't have any working Flash versions from Adobe...
Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
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Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
#62Tried it on Arch Linux + Firefox v35 works smoother than flash plugin. Used AUR package here: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/firefox-extension-shumway... Can't wait for this to replace everything flash. Thank You, shumway team :-)
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
#63Earlier quoted context omitted.
JWPlayer support is difficult because there are many JWPlayer variants and old versions out there. It's easier to test and whitelist individual websites to start.
Why bother emulating it, though? If you can recognize it, and recognize that it's not using any unusual settings, you could potentially just replace the whole thing with a native video player.
That might be a good pull-request for something like No Flash to test it on a larger scale:
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
#64Only somewhat related, but is there still no way to access the clipboard in a web app without flash?
Flash code can read clipboard from Flash/browser i.e. it can run in background and silently and continuously collect contents of clipboard? If so then it should be rightfully classified as spyware and purged from every computer.
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
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I have a question! >Shumway needs H.264 video decoders that may not be available on Windows XP or Linux. Is that a reason for Linux users to be annoyed, or just something that happened and will be corrected soon?
Search bugzilla & you should find open tickets. They shipped first for platforms with native support, understandably, but last time I checked the intention was to support everyone. EDIT: It looks like Linux support shipped in FF26 as long as GStreamer supports it: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=794282#c101 Windows XP is still left out – they use DirectShow for MP3 ( https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug…
It's irritating that they're not just pushing all media through DirectShow, since that's the Windows native framework for doing it and it automatically supports whatever codecs are installed. Their excuse is that they don't have enough control over what codecs users install, which is a bit disappointing.
ffdshow has been able to play H.264 and a bunch of other codecs for a long time, and a not-insignificant number of users probably have that or some other codec that can...
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
#66I'm a program manager on Mozilla's Shumway team. If you have any questions, please ask! :) The name "Shumway" is derived from "Gordon Shumway", the actual name of the TV character ALF: Flash -> Flash Gordon -> Gordon Shumway -> Shumway. :) Shumway is written in TypeScript. It has an ActionScript interpreter and a JIT that generates JavaScript, compiled using eval(). The code is on GitHub: https://github.com/mozilla/s…
Will we see it for other browsers? Soon?
The Shumway interpreter and JIT work in other browsers, but the installable extension to replace the Flash plugin as the default SWF handler is currently Firefox-only. But pull requests are welcome! :)
You can try Shumway in other browsers without the extension at the project website:
http://www.areweflashyet.com/shumway/
The SpiderMonkey team's "Are We Fast Yet?" website also includes some AS3 benchmarks running in Shumway on Firefox, Chrome, and Safari:
http://arewefastyet.com/#machine=28&view=breakdown&suite=shu...
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
#67I'm a program manager on Mozilla's Shumway team. If you have any questions, please ask! :) The name "Shumway" is derived from "Gordon Shumway", the actual name of the TV character ALF: Flash -> Flash Gordon -> Gordon Shumway -> Shumway. :) Shumway is written in TypeScript. It has an ActionScript interpreter and a JIT that generates JavaScript, compiled using eval(). The code is on GitHub: https://github.com/mozilla/s…
Will we see it for other browsers? Soon?
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Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
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Yes exactly and from my experience it's really the best browser available on Windows XP. I've even seen myself a Windows XP with Firefox installed in a shop just a few days ago.
Out of curiosity, what are the options on Windows XP? IE 8, Opera 12?
Chrome works fine, too.
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
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Do you fear that by the time shumway actually works for "most ppl stuff" flash would already be gone and the effort wasted? (its gone from YT..)
Yes and no. Shumway is in a race to stay relevant as Flash fades from the web, but there will always be a long-tail of Flash content that would/will be lost when Adobe or browsers stop supporting the Flash plugin. Even YouTube must continue to support Flash video for at least another year because many websites embedded Flash videos using YouTube's boilerplate embedding HTML with the Flash tag. Google can't magically…
This is a serious point though.
Flash, while pretty atrocious, is part of the cultural legacy of the web.
Someday shumway may be the only way reasonable way to access this via archive.org etc.
Re: Firefox Nightly now plays Amazon.com Flash videos using Shumway
#70Only somewhat related, but is there still no way to access the clipboard in a web app without flash?
There is a W3C spec for a web clipboard API but I don't know if any browsers have implemented it: