This topic comes up every so often. I think my previous comment applies here [1]: I started a Math degree after 16 years of programming without any Math beyond high school (the highest being high school calculus). Most of my work as a software developer didn't require any "higher" Maths. Once I began studying math, including Modern Algebra, Analysis, Graph Theory, Category Theory, etc., I realized I understood many t…
> The range of problems I could tackle as a programmer was limited by math. It turns out this was partly true. Would you mind expanding on this? I've often thought about going back to school for a math degree, or at least for the core degree courses. Did functional programming, particularly in a pure language like Haskell, become easier to reason about once you had studied Category Theory in depth?
A Software Engineer’s Adventures in Learning Mathematics
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#62I feel like there's so many different directions to take, but which ones are the most applicable to practical Software Development? Particularly in the realm of Web Development?
Editing my question to ask what's the most applicable math subjects regarding the _PRACTICAL_ applications of software development, hopefully clears it up a bit.
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#63Usually good books travel from English speaking world to other languages as translations. One of the masterpieces that has gone the opposite direction is: Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (three volumes bound as one) by A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrent'ev (18 authors total) http://www.amazon.com/Mathematics-Content-Methods-Meaning-Do... This book is really good companion for autodidacts…
I own this book and I'll tell you it's not easy learning math from this book. Most of it is just very light overview. There are much better rigorous textbooks that are simpler and more complete. There are some great textbooks translated from Russian. Analysis by Kolmogorov, (rigorous) Linear Algebra by Shilov, Complex Analysis by Markushevich to name a few.
The book covers too much to be thorough. Each chapter gives good introduction to the subject matter and ends with list of suggested reading.
I always read the relevant parts from this book before going deeper. Not everyone is going to dwell into non-euclidean geometry, functional analysis and topology.
Furthermore, I don't think typical self studying engineer in Hacker News wants to learn math using rigorous introduction to analysis. You can get good working knowledge and intuition without knowing what delta epsilon is.
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#64I always thought that being an Engineer assumes you have knowledge of mathematics. The way this word is being used in Software ist kind of strange. "I built a blog in php, I'm a Software Engineer" - this feels kind of awkward to me.
And that assumption is wrong. You don't need any knowledge in advanced mathematics to engineer many types of software, that doesn't make the creator less of a Software Engineer. Being an engineer means using technology, science, mathematics to solve problems. Well in many cases you don't need math to solve these problems. The word itself as no root in math either, it's based on latin for devise/contrive, sure it was…
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#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
I own this book and I'll tell you it's not easy learning math from this book. Most of it is just very light overview. There are much better rigorous textbooks that are simpler and more complete. There are some great textbooks translated from Russian. Analysis by Kolmogorov, (rigorous) Linear Algebra by Shilov, Complex Analysis by Markushevich to name a few.
That's why I said it's good companion. The book covers too much to be thorough. Each chapter gives good introduction to the subject matter and ends with list of suggested reading. I always read the relevant parts from this book before going deeper. Not everyone is going to dwell into non-euclidean geometry, functional analysis and topology. Furthermore, I don't think typical self studying engineer in Hacker News want…
How to Think About Analysis by Lara Alcock.
Understanding Analysis by Stephen Abbot.
Mathematical Analysis and Proof by David Stirling.
Numbers and Functions: Steps into Analysis by Burn.
Analysis: With an Introduction to Proof by Steven Lay.
A First Course in Mathematical Analysis by David Brannan.
Re: A Software Engineer’s Adventures in Learning Mathematics
#66Usually good books travel from English speaking world to other languages as translations. One of the masterpieces that has gone the opposite direction is: Mathematics: Its Content, Methods and Meaning (three volumes bound as one) by A. D. Aleksandrov, A. N. Kolmogorov, M. A. Lavrent'ev (18 authors total) http://www.amazon.com/Mathematics-Content-Methods-Meaning-Do... This book is really good companion for autodidacts…
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#67I don't get the title. At least on my home country, a Software Engineer job title implies a CS degree with at least two years full of math.
In real life, a software engineer can finish his studies and get a job with only a tiny knowledge of math, in every country, regardless what the curriculum says...
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#68I don't get the title. At least on my home country, a Software Engineer job title implies a CS degree with at least two years full of math.
I'll go a different tangent from the other replies, which is there's a whole lot more to math than two years. By analogy a business school IT degree is two years of cs plus a bunch of biz classes instead of compilers and automata theory (it varies, huge simplification, etc) However, its possible to study CS at higher levels for immensely longer than the two years an IT grad will get.
Now with Bologna reducing the degrees to 3 years, the title requires 3 years Bologna + 2 years master as workaround to keep the old 5 years.
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#69I don't mean to go off track here, but as someone who's been casually interested in math, I'm wondering which branches of math are the most applicable to software development. I've taken Discrete Mathematics, Stats, and Calc in college, but now I've been working in the field for a few years and want to try learning a bit more. I've been thinking of trying some courses on Cryptography, but it would be a major shift fr…
Re: A Software Engineer’s Adventures in Learning Mathematics
#70I always thought that being an Engineer assumes you have knowledge of mathematics. The way this word is being used in Software ist kind of strange. "I built a blog in php, I'm a Software Engineer" - this feels kind of awkward to me.
I'm employed as a Software Engineer now but my degree is in ECE. The engineering curriculum at my university (Rutgers) was extremely math intensive. I didn't take a whole lot of software classes but I'm glad I did take all that math. I think it's dishonest to call yourself a Software Engineer and not have an engineering degree. Semantics, but I earned the title.