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Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

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Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

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post #58

As someone who finally shelled out the money for it and a few paid plugins, I'm really glad to hear this!

Which paid Sublime plugins do you use? It's always great to discover useful new tools, and seeing others pay money for them is a strong endorsement of utility!

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

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I'm a co-owner of a small software business, so in a very similar situation to the Sublime Text developer (with the exception that my product is much less successful). I went and looked at the linked-to list of builds. There's a bit of a gap from December 2013 to May 2014. But then there's a release every couple of months.

I know that in the past the builds have been fast and furious, but, honestly, I don't see any reason to have a new build more than every couple of months. More than that and it wastes my time; I suspect the ST developer has learned that more frequent builds waste his time as well.

Sublime Text is fast, powerful, intuitive, and--the killer feature for me--cross-platform. It's well worth the money to me now, regardless of its long-term future (in the long run, we're all dead). While development has been sporadic, at least it seems like the developer has not succumbed to the Moby Dick/Second System effect, so that's a plus. It would be great in the long run (i.e., when the developer tires of full-time work) if it were open source, but it's nigh-impossible to support oneself with open source applications, so it seems healthier now for it to be a proprietary app.

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

#63

I've used ST in the past, but due to slow release cycle, I switched to Vim. What really bugs me in ST is the fact that the guy doesn't have time to work, but still, it's not open source for the community to work together to achieve a decent release cycle.

> due to slow release cycle, I switched to I've read this argument multiple times and I just don't get it. Is it because you were waiting for a feature that hasn't been implemented? What's a decent release cycle? How does a indecent release cycle affect your daily usage of the text editor?

My thinking is that some editors tend to be fashionable. I don't mean that negatively, just that their mindshare is transient until proven otherwise. They have a subset of users that are not massively invested in the platform, and will move to something that looks more interesting or more secure/active/etc.

If that subset is large enough such a migration can harm the ecosystem: less users, less developer mindshare in bugfixing or plugin development and so on. It can then work like a run on the banks where people get out before the problem gets worse, making the problem worse.

Interestingly, vim is often one of those editors: when TextMate was originally dying (pre open-sourcing) there seemed to be a new "why I'm switching to vim" or "how to set up rails dev in vim" post every day. I'd wager that a lot of people moved to vim as a result, then bounced off again.

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

#65
post #53

Too late for me. Atom replaces sublime in my workflow.

Just tried opening a file larger than 2MB....nope. End of Atom tryout.

Its like they didn't even read it? http://www.finseth.com/craft/

(I'm kidding, I understand the slowness is due to the webkit rendering...)

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

#66

I've used ST in the past, but due to slow release cycle, I switched to Vim. What really bugs me in ST is the fact that the guy doesn't have time to work, but still, it's not open source for the community to work together to achieve a decent release cycle.

> due to slow release cycle, I switched to I've read this argument multiple times and I just don't get it. Is it because you were waiting for a feature that hasn't been implemented? What's a decent release cycle? How does a indecent release cycle affect your daily usage of the text editor?

Because there are many annoying small bugs that prevent the editor from being completely useful.

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

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I'm a co-owner of a small software business, so in a very similar situation to the Sublime Text developer (with the exception that my product is much less successful). I went and looked at the linked-to list of builds. There's a bit of a gap from December 2013 to May 2014. But then there's a release every couple of months. I know that in the past the builds have been fast and furious, but, honestly, I don't see any r…

The problem with Sublime in 2014 was not the number of releases but the fact that the developer more or less just disappeared for a year.

I am totally fine if he does not release something new for half a year, but at least he could've written a short blog post that he will take some time off. Even a short "Hey guys, I am still working on it but things are very slow right now" every 8 weeks would've been totally fine.

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

#68
post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't mean technical reasons but what works slowly. Like: I enter a key and the letter shows up with perceivable delay (which in my experience, even with 100.000 lines isn't the case). One thing I found extremely slow for instance was copy and pasting of large chunks of text, but that's something I only experienced while testing Atom's performance. For my common text manipulation, I've never experienced the slowne…

- Text editors have been around for a very long time. - Text editors are not that complex (even with plugin systems they are not doing HPC work). - Text editors were not perceived as slow many years ago. - Our computers have only got faster (10000x range). - It is 2015 and a text editor is slow (sub-second delays in GUI, large file limits, etc). - There are text editors not written in JS/Webkit that are not slow by o…

My point was that Atom is not slow 99% of the time, when doing standard text manipulation. I never argued that there's no basis for dissatisfaction but that the argument "Atom is slow" is often tossed around like some ultimate argument. Often without calling out what is slow (I even pointed out some of Atom's slower operations).

Re: Sublime Text 3 builds picking up steam again

#70
post #30

I've been a long time ST user, but when I out of curiosity started playing with Vim and slowly get used to it, I now prefer it over ST most of the time. But I'm glad that Sublime Text is alive again.

Same experience for me. I started using vim about one year ago, and I have been very happy with it. Having to take my fingers off the keyboard to move around a document or highlight things-- it's just unthinkable now. But I'm glad sublime is there, cross platform and easy to use, just in case I'm on some foreign machine and I don't have time to set up my vimrc and vim plugins. I also recommend Sublime to people who are just starting on programming in a language like Ruby or Javascript as it works just like Word out of the box.
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