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Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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I understand what this is but I'm having a hard time understanding how it works. I understand that it is a sim that permits data-only connectivity for a large number of networks around the world. What I'm having difficulty with is understanding how the sim limits the user to using only whatsapp. Does the sim analyse network traffic content or endpoint to block non-whatsapp data? Is the whatsapp software supplied on t…

I guess they run as MVNO[1] and all data is routed through their APN. The rest goes as another comment has already described.

1. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_virtual_network_operator

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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A friend of mine is getting one, as she doesn't want to get roaming charges during her vacation, but still wants to talk to people on WhatsApp. Seems to solve this problem quite well. :)

Check their rates carefully, in many EU countries pre-paid SIM card would be cheaper.

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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Well, it's trivial for the app to simply add a flag that there is a photo or video in the encrypted content. End to end encryption doesn't mean the app doesn't know what you're sending, it means the company can't decrypt the contents.

But that does not explain how the WhatSim guys can detect multimedia content and charge accordingly. They can't decrypt the traffic and can't modify the app itself.

I think (it's been a while since I looked at this) the multimedia traffic goes to a different set of whatsapp servers.

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've dealt with a small amount of MVNO negotiations and this company has put many red flags up in my mind. It may be obvious to someone else, but I'd like to know how they detect a photo or video being sent, rather than text? WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted, so they can't be proxying the data to the servers. Are they just guessing from the total data transfer seen from the subscriber? There's a lot of unanswered que…

Differentiating pictures and videos from chat traffic is likely an easy traffic analysis problem, unless WhatsApp are using deliberate countermeasures.

How long before someone starts tunneling IP over WhatsApp messages?

https://github.com/matiasinsaurralde/facebook-tunnel

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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Can I use other applications besides WhatsApp? No, WhatSim works only with WhatsApp. If this is the trend, then those quad-sim crappy phones I got from China will finally be useful! One for WhatsApp, one for netflix, one for phone, one for internet. Honestly I don't know who will ever use this.. Also, when I first read the title, I thought: cool, they implemented the WhatsApp protocol on a sim card, so feature phones…

I could see myself buying this if for no other reason than emergencies or that time right after I land in a foreign country and haven't yet pantomimed my way through buying a SIM card in a foreign language. It would be useful to have for those periods and nice to keep around just in case since it's so cheap.

Or even layovers in foreign countries where I want to leave the airport for a few hours and not buy a SIM.

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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Can I use other applications besides WhatsApp? No, WhatSim works only with WhatsApp. If this is the trend, then those quad-sim crappy phones I got from China will finally be useful! One for WhatsApp, one for netflix, one for phone, one for internet. Honestly I don't know who will ever use this.. Also, when I first read the title, I thought: cool, they implemented the WhatsApp protocol on a sim card, so feature phones…

I could see myself buying this if for no other reason than emergencies or that time right after I land in a foreign country and haven't yet pantomimed my way through buying a SIM card in a foreign language. It would be useful to have for those periods and nice to keep around just in case since it's so cheap. Or even layovers in foreign countries where I want to leave the airport for a few hours and not buy a SIM.

I'm with you on this. I'm currently travelling around Europe. I'd rather a one sim solution to keep my family and friends up to date rather than the three prepaids I have on me.

That being said I'd like it if the website was a bit more straight forward and ,if they feel like it, maybe some ssl on the Buy page.

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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I absolutely despise the weasel words that this site uses. It is full of outright lies and contradictions. Most misleadingly: All Sims make you chat. But this one for free and without limits. It's not free, it costs €10 for a year. Why then do they also claim 'it never expires' ? Why do they say that it has no limits, when the Rates page is full of limits? I despise such deliberately misleading text. These people are…

Yup way too many mentions of "free, without limits", considering: €10 per year but they say "no expiry". €.25 per photo (sent or received, I think) €.50 per video That's just for Zone 1. More than triple those prices if you're in Australia or any Zone 2 country.. and more than 6 times those prices if you're in Canada or any Zone 3 country.

I thought these rates were for legacy Multimedia Messages, not for Whatsapp traffic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_Messaging_Service

Edit: apparently not. The FAQ page states the SIM works only for Whatsapp, not for texts.

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yup way too many mentions of "free, without limits", considering: €10 per year but they say "no expiry". €.25 per photo (sent or received, I think) €.50 per video That's just for Zone 1. More than triple those prices if you're in Australia or any Zone 2 country.. and more than 6 times those prices if you're in Canada or any Zone 3 country.

I've dealt with a small amount of MVNO negotiations and this company has put many red flags up in my mind. It may be obvious to someone else, but I'd like to know how they detect a photo or video being sent, rather than text? WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted, so they can't be proxying the data to the servers. Are they just guessing from the total data transfer seen from the subscriber? There's a lot of unanswered que…

Just to spare someone else from googling it:

MVNO = Mobile Virtual Network Operator.

Re: WhatSim, a SIM Card for WhatsApp

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Why would a chat-service operated over the internet require a dedicated SIM of its own?

This just reeks of bad design and the limitations of tying the chat-protocol user-ID to a phone-number.

Until I can log on (anywhere) using a username or email, I'm not going to consider whatsapp a messaging-service for the internet-age.

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