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PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

throwawaymsft wrote: post #29
trurl wrote: post #14

I was first intrigued, but when I saw the price I couldn't really see it being all that useful. It is possible to buy a 4K display with a similar 150dpi resolution for less. So the only advantage I can see here is lower power consumption?

And readability. And only using power when making updates. Using a max of 2.5W instead of 100W is a big deal. You can now power a monitor from your laptop or phone. Also, think about how things tend to work in the electronics industry. DVD players were $1000 in the 90s.

They dropped in price because they were being built and sold in huge volume; I don't really see that happening with this product. E-ink readers (and by extension screens) were very promising five years ago, but then the iPad and Android tablets came along and pretty much wiped that whole market out overnight, disregarding readability and power consumption because apparently that's not as strong a sales argument as people thought it would be.

I'd still like a screen like this though. I gathered I can convert my old Kindle to an external screen with some custom firmware, I might do that.

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by 4ad »

I wanted a display like this for years. In fact, I even did a lot of research to build my own. The biggest hurdle was getting a manufacturer to sell me a big-enough panel at reasonable cost. Absolutely nobody wanted to do anything less than 1k units (understandable, I guess), and I wanted only a few units.

I hope they will make larger versions too. The refresh rate on this display is pretty impressive, but I would be happy even with much slower refresh rate. My needs are humble, I use Unix and Plan 9, and most of the time I write programs in acme. I don't need scrolling, and I certainly don't need color.

I love how easy it is to read (for me) text on an e-ink display and how little fatigue I get. Retina displays significantly improved the experience on regular displays, but it's still significantly behind in the eye-strain department.

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

thomasfl wrote: post #43

I've been looking for an e-ink like monitor for years. The bright light from todays screens has a strong hypnotising effect, that ruins your concentration and makes you more awake at night.

You can tone down the brightness/contrast for those, and/or install an application like F.lux that changes the colour temperature based on the time of day / season. I've been using that one for years now and I haven't had any problems with eye strain or sleeplessness. Note that I don't remember if I actually had problems with that before though.

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by bamie9l »

codeulike wrote: post #60

This will keep its picture while the power is off, right? So it could be a black and white 'canvas' that you hang in your lounge and change the picture every now and then.

If it was to be a static(ish) picture could you not combine many smaller displays and get the same effect?

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by seanmcdirmid »

runeks wrote: post #58
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also no back light; that alone makes reading much easier.

This is really the killer feature as I see it. Instead of external light making screen content harder to see, it actually makes it more visible. I think there are plenty of uses for this technology. Current displays are a huge power hog because they have to compete with/outshine ambient light. With this technology, we use ambient light to make the display content visible, instead of trying to outshine it by cranking…

I wish E-Ink would get more attention because of this. Forget power consumption as the killer feature...it would look more natural and you wouldn't be shining a bright light in your face all the time.

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by Htsthbjig »

shna wrote: post #7

After a long day at work, I get home with my eyes "burned". I sit on the couch and the ceiling lamp hurts my eyes. I turn it off and can only stand the dim light. I think this monitor is perfect for people like me. (Recently started using f.lux, it's helping though)

1- Go see an expert.

2-Buy a good quality screen.

3- Adjust the brightness of it so it is always the same of the surroundings, so your eyes do not suffer from constantly adjusting.

4- For every 50 minutes of work, relax 10 minutes. That means closing your eyes if necessary.

5- Exercise regularly. People ignore how important is blood circulation for your eyes.

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by SEMW »

SixSigma wrote: post #51
vijucat wrote: post #21

Impressive refresh rate! I'd love to try using an IDE such as Eclipse on such a screen. I suppose IDEs can have an e-ink mode where instead of colors, they use multiple fonts, italics, bold fonts, and other decorators to highlight syntax.

Use Emacs, Acme, vi All great monochrome editors. Plenty of exceptional programmers use mono. One wonders if it is a cause or an effect.

Huh? There's nothing inherently monochrome about emacs or vi/vim. Both support colour syntax highlighting, and I'd be surprised if the vast majority of programmers using those editors weren't using it. Certainly everyone in my workplace who uses vim (including me) does. (Don't know about Acme).

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by JamesMcMinn »

ekianjo wrote: post #34
vijucat wrote: post #21

Impressive refresh rate! I'd love to try using an IDE such as Eclipse on such a screen. I suppose IDEs can have an e-ink mode where instead of colors, they use multiple fonts, italics, bold fonts, and other decorators to highlight syntax.

> Impressive refresh rate! Yeah, and apparently no need to go to the black state required on current e-ink screens?

That's mostly to prevent image retention ("burn in"), which the display does unfortunately seems to have.

Re: PaperLike: 13.3″ E Ink Monitor by Dasung Tech

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Post by polshaw »

ForHackernews wrote: post #26
rtpg wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

do you know of which ones exactly? I was looking into using an old kindle for such a think, but couldn't figure out a straightforward way of pushing data onto it

Kindle is one of the harder ones. The Barnes and Noble Nook is android-based and easily rootable: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nook-touch

NB it runs android 2.1 though. Is there even a VNC viewer that runs on an android version that old?
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