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Re: The Emularity

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Post by beeworker »

RyanMcGreal wrote: post #39
slg wrote: post #23

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Nostalgia might be a consistent phenomenon, but surely what we are nostalgia about changes. A 20 year old likely never experienced Windows 3.11 in the first place. That would likely make them view emulating it more of a novelty exercise than a nostalgic one, which anecdotally is a weaker and shorter lived motivator.

On the other hand, a 20-year-old probably didn't grow up with a record player but suddenly vinyl is in a huge renaissance.

Huge may be an overstatement... http://www.digitalmusicnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/v...

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Post by vitovito »

julianj wrote: post #45
iso8859-1 wrote: post #31

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how do you think em-dosbox compares to jsdosbox?

I like that it we can use either zip archives or img files with jsdosbox-- and that the setup is pretty straightforward. Here's a guide I hacked together a couple of months ago for comparison: http://atechdad.com/how-to-jsdosbox/

em-dosbox uses emscripten's packager by default, but it doesn't have to. Anything that can dump files into an emscripten virtual filesystem will work. The Internet Archive's loader uses .zip file bundles via BrowserFS: https://github.com/jvilk/BrowserFS

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Post by [deleted] »

vegabook wrote: post #53
bai0 wrote: post #51

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WordPerfect in the browser? Please, that was so two weeks ago: https://archive.org/details/msdos_wordperfect6 Might need to print this and tape it to your keyboard though http://bit.ly/1zDZrjk

I'm waiting for vim in the browser... oh wait... http://dailyjs.com/2013/12/13/vimjs/ Still - I'll take it all back when someone shows me Wordstar.js. Who needs Indesign??

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Re: The Emularity

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Post by arohner »

Ok, I understand how you'd run a CPU emulator written in JS, in a browser, but how do these things get raw socket access?

If you're running in a browser, all the network access you get is HTTP AJAX, right?

Re: The Emularity

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Post by wuliwong »

lione wrote: post #52
RyanMcGreal wrote: post #39

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On the other hand, a 20-year-old probably didn't grow up with a record player but suddenly vinyl is in a huge renaissance.

On the other other hand, Vinyl at least has some upsides. Listening to a Vinyl is an experience, plus it's lossless, and physically owning a record is cool/makes good art/conversation pieces. Windows3.11 would be interesting to check out, but it'd be more like something you'd check out for 20 minutes to see how it used to be done, then you'd go back to your modern OS. Vinyl is an experience, most older software is a…

I would argue that the vinyl "revolution" is more about the actual qualities of the sound produced vs. digital media than simple nostalgia.

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Post by wuliwong »

tedks wrote: post #55
lione wrote: post #52

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On the other other hand, Vinyl at least has some upsides. Listening to a Vinyl is an experience, plus it's lossless, and physically owning a record is cool/makes good art/conversation pieces. Windows3.11 would be interesting to check out, but it'd be more like something you'd check out for 20 minutes to see how it used to be done, then you'd go back to your modern OS. Vinyl is an experience, most older software is a…

On the other other hand, Windows 3.1 has some upsides. Running Windows 3.1 is an experience, plus it's on DOS, and having a Windows 3.1 install on your laptop is cool/makes good art/conversations pieces. Vinyl would be interesting to listen to once or twice to show off to your friends, but it'd be more like something you'd set up once to see how it used to be done, then you'd go back to an iPod. Windows 3.1 is an exp…

While you are obviously exceedingly clever, you're funny inversion is BS. Vinyl isn't a novelty. It is a small but non-negligible market. In my anecdotal experience, myself and my friends have had record players and have been listening to and buying records for years. The "market" for Windows 3.1 machines in 2015 is microscopic and completely negligible.

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Post by petercooper »

arohner wrote: post #64

Ok, I understand how you'd run a CPU emulator written in JS, in a browser, but how do these things get raw socket access? If you're running in a browser, all the network access you get is HTTP AJAX, right?

No, there are various other mechanisms now, perhaps the most useful and widespread for this situation being WebSocket. It's not without limitations though: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebSocket

And it's not quite "the browser" in the usual sense, but Chrome Apps (and, I believe, extensions?) get access to TCP and UDP APIs: https://developer.chrome.com/apps/app_network

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Post by spion »

arohner wrote: post #64

Ok, I understand how you'd run a CPU emulator written in JS, in a browser, but how do these things get raw socket access? If you're running in a browser, all the network access you get is HTTP AJAX, right?

Well, one way is to implement TCP over HTTP (or some of the lower-level protocols even) but you will need server-side code aswell

Re: The Emularity

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Post by jff »

lione wrote: post #52
RyanMcGreal wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

On the other hand, a 20-year-old probably didn't grow up with a record player but suddenly vinyl is in a huge renaissance.

On the other other hand, Vinyl at least has some upsides. Listening to a Vinyl is an experience, plus it's lossless, and physically owning a record is cool/makes good art/conversation pieces. Windows3.11 would be interesting to check out, but it'd be more like something you'd check out for 20 minutes to see how it used to be done, then you'd go back to your modern OS. Vinyl is an experience, most older software is a…

> Listening to a Vinyl is an experience, plus it's lossless

Nope, your record loses information every time you play it, because you're literally rubbing a needle over those tiny little grooves.

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