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Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by that_guy »

cbd1984 wrote: post #12
jawngee wrote: post #2

I can relate to this. I took klonopin for 10+ years, just recently weaned myself off of it (six months and counting). My first panic attack happened about two weeks after 9/11 on the F train. Top 3 most terrifying moments of my life. I did CBT, talk therapy, all kinds of anti-depressant medications (the worst being Effexor XR, that shit should be illegal) until finding klonopin to be the most effective. Marijuana was…

It would be great if there were better ways to get the active ingredients in marijuana into people without hoping the plant has them in the right ratios, doesn't have the chemicals that cause bad side-effects, and doesn't need to be smoked (which hurts the lungs) or eaten in a fatty solution (which causes weight gain, which hurts everything else).

Edibles bro.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by UrMomReadsHN »

aantix wrote: post #29
aantix wrote: post #5

I had been feeling a little blue the past few months. I didn't want to take an anti-depressant (too heavy and too many side effects). I read this book : http://www.amazon.com/The-Mood-Cure-Program-Emotions-Today/d... She basically advocates for the supplements 5htp and St John's Wort taken three times a day (empty stomach ideally). Her theory is that a lot of our depressive moods are due to nutritional deficiencies a…

Why the downvote?

I didn't downvote you but supplements are far from risk free. Also in the US you could be ingesting almost anything when you buy a supplement, thats how unregulated the industry is. you need to talk to your doc before starting any supplements. Especially if you are on medication.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by catchaway1 »

priorstoner wrote: post #55
catchaway1 wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a question for you actually. I have noticed things very similar to what you talk about after a few years of regular smoking. I started at 19 and I'm 21 now (edit, 22, forgot my own age). I used to evangelize marijuana since it has no overt medical side effects, but I think I'm coming to realize what you are talking about -- it kinda does make you stupid, like my Mom warned me about years ago. And not just when…

Here's another anecdote, for what it's worth: I started smoking at age 21, when I graduated college a year early, and smoked nonstop after graduation until age 23. At that point, my life basically fell apart, and it was definitely related to being high 24/7. So I quit cold turkey. By age 25, I had started my own web business that was very successful. SaaS business, recurring revenue, amazing growth, etc. I was drivin…

That sucks dude, but it's also hilarious. I can't believe you would try to make business decisions while being high. I can imagine going to work high as shit, for starters, I would forget everyone's names, and then I would probably forget everything else too. But I can definitely imagine how you could talk yourself into it especially if you are self employed.

I think hearing these stories is really interesting, since I can relate them to my own experience. Thanks for sharing! I guess I should start working on getting that "edge" back.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by 0xdeadbeefbabe »

someone903209 wrote: post #48
hackaflocka wrote: post #35

Learn to meditate. It can cure anxiety. Source: personal experience.

Anxiety and the meditative state are, to put it simply, impossible to experience at the same time. Who is it that is anxious, when that anxious person no longer exists?

In my experience meditation effectively reduces panic, but I'm still aware of panic. It's like holding a hot coal.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by cbd1984 »

TheSisb2 wrote: post #17
cbd1984 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It would be great if there were better ways to get the active ingredients in marijuana into people without hoping the plant has them in the right ratios, doesn't have the chemicals that cause bad side-effects, and doesn't need to be smoked (which hurts the lungs) or eaten in a fatty solution (which causes weight gain, which hurts everything else).

From what I've heard "vaporizing" allows you better control consumption without any (minimal) smoke. Probably the safest and healthiest method to consume a desired amount.

That doesn't solve the problem of getting a known dose with minimal bad chemicals.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by silentfish »

throwaway1 wrote: post #25
someone903209 wrote: post #6

Weed (because it has no real downsides to me personally) and once-a-year DXM (for depersonalisation) were mildly effective, but the clincher has been learning about buddhism / the tao. I'm not talking about any kind of spiritual practice, but moreso a change in perspective that simply isn't expressed by anyone around me. Doing the unambiguously right thing in the best way in any circumstance with no effort or conscio…

> (because it has no real downsides) Ohhh boy. On this throwaway to say otherwise. I'm sorry if this post is a bit incoherent because I'm horribly tired, still getting past the nuts insomnia phase of quitting. I've smoked a lot of weed. Started smoking in high school, heavily when I was 19 until a couple weeks ago (I'm 26 now). About an ounce a month over that time, sometimes two ounces. First it was for insomnia, th…

Funny. Your weed-smoking stage of life describes current me to a dot. Except I don't smoke. :(

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by A_COMPUTER »

hvs wrote: post #10
jawngee wrote: post #2

I can relate to this. I took klonopin for 10+ years, just recently weaned myself off of it (six months and counting). My first panic attack happened about two weeks after 9/11 on the F train. Top 3 most terrifying moments of my life. I did CBT, talk therapy, all kinds of anti-depressant medications (the worst being Effexor XR, that shit should be illegal) until finding klonopin to be the most effective. Marijuana was…

Effexor XR was very helpful for both myself and family members. Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it should be "illegal".

For some people it is not only ineffective, it results in suicide. I was almost one of those people. I don't know if it should be illegal, but I'm just throwing that out there.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by killface »

A_COMPUTER wrote: post #67
hvs wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Effexor XR was very helpful for both myself and family members. Just because something doesn't work for you doesn't mean it should be "illegal".

For some people it is not only ineffective, it results in suicide. I was almost one of those people. I don't know if it should be illegal, but I'm just throwing that out there.

that's true of nearly every anti-depressant, though. it's called suicidal ideation: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suicidal_ideation#Prescription_...

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by killface »

cbd1984 wrote: post #65
TheSisb2 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've heard "vaporizing" allows you better control consumption without any (minimal) smoke. Probably the safest and healthiest method to consume a desired amount.

That doesn't solve the problem of getting a known dose with minimal bad chemicals.

Known dose, sure. A lot of medical shops are posting independent lab measurements of all of the independent cannabinoids (most importantly: thc, cbd, cbn, cbg). So if you had a mg-accurate scale, and a bit of math, and assuming 100% uptake in a vaporizer, that's nearly a solved problem. With vaporizing the dried flowers, there is literally nothing else in there -- it's not an extract or anything where there could be latent glycols or butane or whatever.

So really, the problem _is_ solved :) It's just that the threshold and effective doses for cannabis mean that mg-specific dosing really isn't that useful.

Re: Surviving Anxiety

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Post by killface »

cbd1984 wrote: post #65
TheSisb2 wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From what I've heard "vaporizing" allows you better control consumption without any (minimal) smoke. Probably the safest and healthiest method to consume a desired amount.

That doesn't solve the problem of getting a known dose with minimal bad chemicals.

Known dose, sure. A lot of medical shops are posting independent lab measurements of all of the independent cannabinoids (most importantly: thc, cbd, cbn, cbg). So if you had a mg-accurate scale, and a bit of math, and assuming 100% uptake in a vaporizer, that's nearly a solved problem. With vaporizing the dried flowers, there is literally nothing else in there -- it's not an extract or anything where there could be latent glycols or butane or whatever.

So really, the problem _is_ solved :) It's just that the threshold and effective doses for cannabis mean that mg-specific dosing really isn't that useful.

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