I'm very happy to see Lars Rasmussen releasing something new again. He's the (ex-Googler) guy behind Google Maps and the much loved (and perhaps also hated) Google Wave project. Google wave was (in my mind) one of those "ahead of it's time" projects when it was released. I'm not aware of any significant contributions he has had since his time in Facebook. So is this his first?
> significant contributions he has had since his time in Facebook
I agree with you. But. It's not difficult to argue that we're in a new era of computing when a hacking attempt against your company's IT stack hacked is very likely, if you have any info of interest. So companies have two choices: secure and maintain their infrastructure more than they ever used to (= spending more than they ever used to), or transfer their infrastructure to companies that will do it for them. I don'…
So, third parties may want your data, and the solution is throw in the towel and just give the data pre-emptively to third parties? Gotcha.
Exactly. Facebook is the one hacking you in the first place so they can get you to store your data with Facebook. Sterling analysis, sir!
I agree with you. But. It's not difficult to argue that we're in a new era of computing when a hacking attempt against your company's IT stack hacked is very likely, if you have any info of interest. So companies have two choices: secure and maintain their infrastructure more than they ever used to (= spending more than they ever used to), or transfer their infrastructure to companies that will do it for them. I don'…
So, third parties may want your data, and the solution is throw in the towel and just give the data pre-emptively to third parties? Gotcha.
No. Illegitimate third parties, such as criminals, want your data. So you throw in the towel and give your data to legitimate third party companies that you have signed privacy and service contracts with. They're really not comparable.
It's easy to deploy and you can do things such as end to end encryption, and there are many sharing/privacy options.
If you install some version of Facebook then chances are they'll try to find some way to exfiltrate or monetise your company data. Also, if you're not a US company then 100% of everything you enter into Facebook is regarded as fair game to be exfiltrated, stored, analysed, etc. Probably that's not in your best interests.
I agree with you. But. It's not difficult to argue that we're in a new era of computing when a hacking attempt against your company's IT stack hacked is very likely, if you have any info of interest. So companies have two choices: secure and maintain their infrastructure more than they ever used to (= spending more than they ever used to), or transfer their infrastructure to companies that will do it for them. I don'…
So, third parties may want your data, and the solution is throw in the towel and just give the data pre-emptively to third parties? Gotcha.
guess what? not every company can afford or even convince the best, ereetest security professionals to work for them.
most companies can't even configure their printers correctly, how do you expect them to harden their public facing servers?
I'm very happy to see Lars Rasmussen releasing something new again. He's the (ex-Googler) guy behind Google Maps and the much loved (and perhaps also hated) Google Wave project. Google wave was (in my mind) one of those "ahead of it's time" projects when it was released. I'm not aware of any significant contributions he has had since his time in Facebook. So is this his first?
And Wave was a rehash of Ray Ozzie's Groove, which got bought by Microsoft when they hired him, and then they shelved it. This was c. '97, so how much more was Ozzie ahead of his time, and when is it going to be BE time for this? I still want it. I think the problem with Groove was that it stored data on your local machine, and replicated between clients, and the big companies aren't interested. Best I can figure is…
Microsoft bought Groove in 2005 and renamed the client to Sharepoint Workspace 2010. It was not that great and it got canned.
Has anyone seen a work social network that wasn't a joke? We have one, and the only use is that your director/VP asks their org to follow them, and then posts various strategic stuff they want you to see. There's zero peer-to-peer usage at all.
Chatter got some use as a proper work social network when I was at Salesforce, currently at another company that also uses chatter and it's exactly as you mention, a barren land with the occasional person tooting their own horn "@VP @CEO @Mom"
We use Chatter where I work, and I think it's used pretty successfully. It's not exactly a "social network" because, let's face it, when you're at work, you're (hopefully) going to be a lot more professional and not treat it like Facebook. Instead, I'm seeing our sales team communicating with the product team to ask questions about our products, post suggestions they've received from clients, ask for example clients, etc. It seems to work. It just doesn't work like Facebook because, well, it's a completely different environment.
"Lars Rasmussen, the engineering director at Facebook who is heading up the project, had in his past once headed up one of the failed efforts at an enterprise social network, Google Wave."
Lars Rasmussen was also the guy behind google maps. Seems a little unfair to set it up like the above.