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Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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I think gun.io has pretty decent projects although I've never actually worked through them. They seem more properly screened and to hold their talent to higher standards. At least that's the impression I've received.

I don't know anyone that actually were able to work on projects advertised on gun.io. These were freelancers with a high hourly rate to lower hourly rates. The experience of gun.io is frustrating because you send out a proposal and you often have no idea what is happening to it. Let alone that the given set of requirements are esoteric enough, there just doesn't seem to be any available jobs that end up happening thr…

I tried getting projects on gun.io and never heard back from a client. Perhaps I need a better opensourcing profile - https://github.com/flipflopapp . Did anyone ever hearback from a gun.io client?

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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I own a company and have been using ODESK for the last six years. I have spent nearly 35,000 on above average programmers, their normal rate of pay is anywhere between 15 and 65.00 an hour. At first, i selected this site because it was a good source of low paid talent, but then I realized there were some really solid developers/programmers using the service. I only really had problem with 2-3 guys who said they were…

$35,000 over six years. This is why if you're a programmer of any substance, you should avoid oDesk.

You are assuming he hired programmers full time. Where did he state that?

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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A freelance marketplace is always full of cheap and mindless people who are not able to deliver anything. They place random bids and produce crap.

Unfortunately most of clients don't realize that it's not possible to get a quality work for $20 per hour or even less. They get frustrated and disappointed in a whole idea of hiring a freelancer.

P.S. If you need a reliable person for your Python or Javascript work – just drop me a line ;-) http://careers.stackoverflow.com/msamoylov

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think gun.io has pretty decent projects although I've never actually worked through them. They seem more properly screened and to hold their talent to higher standards. At least that's the impression I've received.

I don't know anyone that actually were able to work on projects advertised on gun.io. These were freelancers with a high hourly rate to lower hourly rates. The experience of gun.io is frustrating because you send out a proposal and you often have no idea what is happening to it. Let alone that the given set of requirements are esoteric enough, there just doesn't seem to be any available jobs that end up happening thr…

Yep, a friend of mine applied to 3 jobs on there and never heard a peep back. One job was only 20 miles away from him too so they could have had a great collaborative experience.

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think gun.io has pretty decent projects although I've never actually worked through them. They seem more properly screened and to hold their talent to higher standards. At least that's the impression I've received.

I don't know anyone that actually were able to work on projects advertised on gun.io. These were freelancers with a high hourly rate to lower hourly rates. The experience of gun.io is frustrating because you send out a proposal and you often have no idea what is happening to it. Let alone that the given set of requirements are esoteric enough, there just doesn't seem to be any available jobs that end up happening thr…

So I think if you're going through the trouble of curating the freelancers you allow to bid on jobs, then one of your rules should be that job posters must reply to proposals.

It might make sense to limit proposals to one at a time,so the job poster must reject a proposal before he can see another one.

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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post #59

I own a company and have been using ODESK for the last six years. I have spent nearly 35,000 on above average programmers, their normal rate of pay is anywhere between 15 and 65.00 an hour. At first, i selected this site because it was a good source of low paid talent, but then I realized there were some really solid developers/programmers using the service. I only really had problem with 2-3 guys who said they were…

"but you know during the job they were Googling answers to the problems" LOL, what an asshole.

sarcasm?

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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A freelance marketplace is always full of cheap and mindless people who are not able to deliver anything. They place random bids and produce crap. Unfortunately most of clients don't realize that it's not possible to get a quality work for $20 per hour or even less. They get frustrated and disappointed in a whole idea of hiring a freelancer. P.S. If you need a reliable person for your Python or Javascript work – just…

I disagree, it is possible to get quality work for U$ 20 or less... but it probably takes so much time to sort the actual decent bidders from the busts than it should not be worth it.

I know of several good developers that started out on those sites, but were quickly snatched full-time by companies that realized they were good.

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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A freelance marketplace is always full of cheap and mindless people who are not able to deliver anything. They place random bids and produce crap. Unfortunately most of clients don't realize that it's not possible to get a quality work for $20 per hour or even less. They get frustrated and disappointed in a whole idea of hiring a freelancer. P.S. If you need a reliable person for your Python or Javascript work – just…

I disagree, it is possible to get quality work for U$ 20 or less... but it probably takes so much time to sort the actual decent bidders from the busts than it should not be worth it. I know of several good developers that started out on those sites, but were quickly snatched full-time by companies that realized they were good.

I could agree about prospective juniors with extremely low rates. But, a SUPER DUPER FULL-STACK DEVELOPER with a decade of experience for $20/hr doesn't make much sense. Most probably he has no idea what he's doing. His communication skills and the results of his work won't be impressive.

Re: Why you should think twice about Freelancer.com

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post #18

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Without being rude, what sort of income is possible from those sites?

I know a few hundred dollars here and there doesn't sound like a lot, but if you are doing it while living in a country with a favorable exchange rate (say, Brazil or Argentina), it becomes an easy way to earn a decent living. I've done it myself.

Even with favorable exchange rates, living in most metropolitan areas in Brazil is very expensive and you are likely to earn more working for Brazilian clients - right now unemployment is under 4% in general and almost inexistent in IT so wages are up.

The situation in Argentina is good if you get paid in cash because the black market pays twice the official (and artificial) rate. I guess it is not so good if you are being paid through a prepaid card like payoneer.

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