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Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Are there any VPS providers in UK that support IPv6? The idea would be to set up personal VPN that would exit thru IPv6 and/or get anonymomized on a public IPV4 NAT. Would that make sense?

Digital Ocean supports IPv6 in their London DC. But if you just want a tunnel, it's much easier to get one from HE[1], or SixXS[2] than set up your own VPN. It's not anonymous though.

[1] Their London PoP is not accepting new users right now https://tunnelbroker.net/new_tunnel.php

[2] Two PoPs in London https://www.sixxs.net/pops/

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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Are there any VPS providers in UK that support IPv6? The idea would be to set up personal VPN that would exit thru IPv6 and/or get anonymomized on a public IPV4 NAT. Would that make sense?

Why go through all the trouble? Just get a free tunnel from Hurricane Electric (https://tunnelbroker.net/). Their site mentions that they have servers in London.

If anonymity is your goal, then a VPS probably wouldn't be much help—you'd be traced right back to your VPS provider, so you'd still be hoping that they wouldn't divulge your information. Since a VPS is normally on a static IP, it'd be slightly worse than a typical dynamic IP from a residential ISP.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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post #49

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Comcast in San Francisco supports native IPv6 on residential accounts. Even did it (almost) right and include a /60 prefix delegation.

For all the complaints against Comcast's network, they are really on it with IPv6.

Agreed. Comcast has terrible management, and unreliable (usually bad) customer support, but I've found that their network operations are very good (when they're not applying corporate anticompetitive policies); a couple of their top IPv6 people hang out on the Comcast forum on dslreports.com, and they really seem to care a lot about proper network management.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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post #51

This seems like a good place to ask--I'm on Time Warner. I have an ipv6 address, and can get to ipv6.google.com, so it seems like everything is in place. But all my web browsing (chrome or ff, Windows 7) defaults to use ipv4 everywhere. Is there something I need to change on my end? I've got pretty vanilla settings. Thanks!

There are a few potential factors in play:

1. What kind of IPv6 connectivity do you have? If it's not a native deployment, it could be 6rd or 6to4. I believe that some applications/OSes will prefer IPv4 over non-native IPv6 when they have the choice, since the latter will be running through a proxy (and therefore will probably be slower).

2. It could be an OS setting. I think that most recent OSes will prefer IPv6 by default, but I could be mistaken.

3. Application settings could also be in play.

I installed a Chrome extension named "IPvFoo" that adds an indicator in the address bar to tell me whether I'm connecting over IPv4 or IPv6. When I'm at home (Comcast residential, native dual-stack), it shows me connecting over IPv6 a lot of the time, especially when I'm connected to larger sites; in fact, the majority of sites connect over IPv6 at least partially, since many popular services (Google Analytics, Google Fonts, some common CDNs for Javascript libraries) are available over v6.

Perhaps this will help you figure out what's going on: http://test-ipv6.comcast.net/

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it pretty likely that once we reach 50% it will switch from "That thing that techies care about" to "Something people assume everyone has", and that any remaining ISPs that don't provide IPv6 will rush to get it done. I'm sure that IPv4 support will continue for a fair while though.

> Any remaining ISPs that don't provide IPv6 will rush to get it done. You give people a lot of credit. I work at a large ISP/Telco, we just got a new Director of "Core/IP"... in the first meeting the new director attended we started talking about IPv6 initiatives and the new Director interrupted us all and said "Wait. What's IPv6?" (They were serious)

How is that even possible? How does someone get that title and not know what IPv6 is? Did you guys reach into the 90's to hire him?

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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post #51

This seems like a good place to ask--I'm on Time Warner. I have an ipv6 address, and can get to ipv6.google.com, so it seems like everything is in place. But all my web browsing (chrome or ff, Windows 7) defaults to use ipv4 everywhere. Is there something I need to change on my end? I've got pretty vanilla settings. Thanks!

There are a few potential factors in play: 1. What kind of IPv6 connectivity do you have? If it's not a native deployment, it could be 6rd or 6to4. I believe that some applications/OSes will prefer IPv4 over non-native IPv6 when they have the choice, since the latter will be running through a proxy (and therefore will probably be slower). 2. It could be an OS setting. I think that most recent OSes will prefer IPv6 by…

I spent some time checking into things, and here's what appears to be happening:

1. I do get an IPv6 address from Time-Warner... and it appears to be legit. (It's not the link-local address; it starts with 2605:e000, which is in the Time-Warner block)

2. But... it appears to be non-routable from the general internet. I think this is Time-Warner's fault. But maybe it's my router. I am not sure. Traceroute from http://4or6.com/traceroute?l=en gives me this. (I attempted to obfuscate my real address with XXXX)

    #traceroute 2605:e000:xxxx
    traceroute to 2605:e000:xxxx (2605:e000:xxxx), 30 hops max, 80 byte packets
     1  2607:f2f8:1600::1 (2607:f2f8:1600::1)  1.653 ms  1.597 ms  1.583 ms  
     2  2001:504:13::1a (2001:504:13::1a)  11.753 ms  11.746 ms  11.732 ms
     3  twcable-backbone-as7843.10gigabitethernet17.switch2.lax2.he.net (2001:470:0:2bf::2)  2.618 ms  2.610 ms  2.599 ms
     4  2001:1998:0:4::11d (2001:1998:0:4::11d)  3.956 ms 2001:1998:0:4::11b (2001:1998:0:4::11b)  3.477 ms 2001:1998:0:4::11d (2001:1998:0:4::11d)  5.512 ms
     5  2001:1998:0:8::83 (2001:1998:0:8::83)  4.090 ms  5.784 ms 2001:1998:0:8::87 (2001:1998:0:8::87)  6.542 ms
     6  2605:e000:0:4::41 (2605:e000:0:4::41)  6.753 ms  5.032 ms  5.011 ms
     7  2605:e000:0:4::5:7f (2605:e000:0:4::5:7f)  6.859 ms  7.042 ms  7.128 ms
     8  * * *
3. Since a recent firmware upgrade, my router detects this problem, and sometimes (but not always) decides to set up a 6to4 tunnel. I am not sure how this works, exactly.

4a. If the router does set up the 6to4 tunnel, I do have IPv6, but as organsnyder says, since 6to4 tunnels suck, the OS prefers to use ipv4.

4b. If the router does not set up the 6to4 tunnel, I have a completely non-functional IPv6.

Oh well, maybe next year.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

#68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For all the complaints against Comcast's network, they are really on it with IPv6.

Agreed. Comcast has terrible management, and unreliable (usually bad) customer support, but I've found that their network operations are very good (when they're not applying corporate anticompetitive policies); a couple of their top IPv6 people hang out on the Comcast forum on dslreports.com, and they really seem to care a lot about proper network management.

I've seen this as well! Amazing what happens when people care.

Re: 5% of Google's traffic is now IPv6

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post #66
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Any remaining ISPs that don't provide IPv6 will rush to get it done. You give people a lot of credit. I work at a large ISP/Telco, we just got a new Director of "Core/IP"... in the first meeting the new director attended we started talking about IPv6 initiatives and the new Director interrupted us all and said "Wait. What's IPv6?" (They were serious)

How is that even possible? How does someone get that title and not know what IPv6 is? Did you guys reach into the 90's to hire him?

I know.. this is what I face every day.

They hire managers and Directors who will do what the people above them say. The people above them have even less technical know-how, so it's not like they can vet potential candidates.

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