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Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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Post by ams6110 »

ProAm wrote: post #50
cryoshon wrote: post #41

Relative to the year 2000 is the part that scares me the most. It seems that largely things have changed for the worse over the last decade. For Massachusetts: Lower employment by an entire %4. Lower wages by 4k/year (%10 less!!!), adjusted for inflation. More people living with parents, fewer people living alone (read: piled into group houses with their former college roommates/friends). More people in poverty. More…

> More people never married (can't afford a real wedding, or ring). You cannot leap to the conclusion that people are not getting married because they cannot afford it. I seriously doubt that is correlated (of course I have no proof either).

Agree, there have always been courthouse weddings that are very inexpensive. If your SO is holding out for a $1,000 (or more) piece of carbon, might be good to have a chat about that before going any further.

Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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Post by stronglikedan »

humanrebar wrote: post #24

Aside from the economic indicators, which are already being discussed here, the numbers for "never married" (up), "veteran" (way down), and "foreign born" (up) really jump out as trends. "Living with a parent" (up) is also a trend, but perhaps one more directly tied to the employment economy. For better or worse, all these trends have had and will have important societal impacts. Why don't we see more discussions on…

I would imagine that the "living with a parent" trend correlates with the "foreign born" trend. From what I've heard about other cultures outside of the US, it's common for a child to live with a parent up until they get married.

Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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Post by yuncun »

robodale wrote: post #51
kleer001 wrote: post #9

35+ y/o here. Every time I hear things like this I call up my mother and thank her for having me earlier than later. Also, I did not like the interface. I'd rather all the data was just there in one map.

I'm 41. My years of experience and getting two degrees when I was young and ambitious has helped greatly. I would NOT want to be 18-24 right now.

I'm 23, it's meh. I think most 18-24 kids browsing hackernews will be ok, but I have a lot of smarter classmates who are having trouble in other-than-CS fields.

Re: Explore how people in the U.S. aged 18 to 34 have changed over four decades

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Post by dragonwriter »

jboggan wrote: post #11
hnriot wrote: post #10

I was surprised at the number who had a degree was less than the national average for California. I guess there's a lot of immigrant workers who don't achieve higher education levels which skews the perception living and working in the valley. States like Virginia and Kansas beat the national average, yet not california, that's really sad.

I almost guarantee that any HN reader lives in a section of California that is radically unrepresentative of the state as a whole.

As there is pretty much no regional section of California that is representative of the State as a whole, that's a fairly easy guarantee to make.

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Post by dragonwriter »

azurezyq wrote: post #38
debacle wrote: post #2

The Median Earnings for Full Time Workers page was quite sad for America. Language Other than English Spoken at Home was quite surprising for me. I had no idea it was that high. I don't understand how the employment numbers can be that bad. 35% unemployment - that is mostly impacted by people rearing children and college age folk, I hope.

I'm living in California. California has a considerable amount of Spanish speaking hispanics for historic reasons. For greater SF/LA areas, actually non-native English speakers communities are growing very fast due to hi-techs and relatives immigrants. Just to mention a few: Monterey Park, 20% whites, 66.9% asians (50% Chinese). Milpitas, 20% whites, 62.2% asians. Cupertino, 30% whites, 63.3% asians (20% Chinese, 20%…

> I'm living in California. California has a considerable amount of Spanish speaking hispanics for historic reasons.

More for geographic reasons. The Hispanics that are here for historic reasons (e.g., descendants of Californios) largely speak English.

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Post by IndianAstronaut »

cryoshon wrote: post #41

Relative to the year 2000 is the part that scares me the most. It seems that largely things have changed for the worse over the last decade. For Massachusetts: Lower employment by an entire %4. Lower wages by 4k/year (%10 less!!!), adjusted for inflation. More people living with parents, fewer people living alone (read: piled into group houses with their former college roommates/friends). More people in poverty. More…

The next obvious thing that will start to happen is higher crime. Lots of unemployed, lots of time on hands, and no future.

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Post by yuncun »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #55
kaoD wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to "staying competitive". Here at Spain (and generally Southern Europe) we've been told over and over again that we have to stay competitive, which is just an euphemism for working more and earning less (i.e. becoming Europe's China). In a globalized market with a (still) steadily growing population, competition is growing and therefore salaries are shrinking. It's happening in all industries (e.g. tech firms…

> competition is growing and therefore salaries are shrinking I'm a fan of asking naive questions, so here's one: If salaries are shrinking everywhere, then where is all the money?

Towards second world countries like China that have been quietly busting their asses after WWII.

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Post by mkramlich »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #55
kaoD wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Welcome to "staying competitive". Here at Spain (and generally Southern Europe) we've been told over and over again that we have to stay competitive, which is just an euphemism for working more and earning less (i.e. becoming Europe's China). In a globalized market with a (still) steadily growing population, competition is growing and therefore salaries are shrinking. It's happening in all industries (e.g. tech firms…

> competition is growing and therefore salaries are shrinking I'm a fan of asking naive questions, so here's one: If salaries are shrinking everywhere, then where is all the money?

from the global data trends it seems clear that an increasing proportion is being captured and kept in th capitalist/owner class, at the expense of labor. there's been a noticeable shift worldwide overall

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Post by Kluny »

ProAm wrote: post #50
cryoshon wrote: post #41

Relative to the year 2000 is the part that scares me the most. It seems that largely things have changed for the worse over the last decade. For Massachusetts: Lower employment by an entire %4. Lower wages by 4k/year (%10 less!!!), adjusted for inflation. More people living with parents, fewer people living alone (read: piled into group houses with their former college roommates/friends). More people in poverty. More…

> More people never married (can't afford a real wedding, or ring). You cannot leap to the conclusion that people are not getting married because they cannot afford it. I seriously doubt that is correlated (of course I have no proof either).

It's not that they can't afford the wedding. I think it's more of a refusal to settle down and commit with someone who doesn't have a stable career/future, or the inflexibility of a spouse whom you'll have to convince to move when the only job options you can find are in a different state.
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