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If I were a UTAH politician pushing for this I would be very careful now, You might just wake up one morning with a squad of armed policemen storming your house who will "find" child porn on your computer.
If I were a UTAH politician pushing for this I would be very careful now, You might just wake up one morning with a squad of armed policemen storming your house who will "find" child porn on your computer.
If I were in charge of implementing the retribution I would pick something far more innocuous than that, drunk driving, cheating on wife scandal, some sort of tax fraud, lest it give the game away.
> “What’s noteworthy is no one on the panel said: ‘Hey, wait a minute, we can’t do this,'” he says. “They had some specific concerns about the language of the bill, but there was no outright opposition.” That's pretty surprising given how incredibly conservative/Republican the state of Utah is. I'd be surprised if the bill passed (and if it was it would surely be caught up in litigation), but kudos to someone in such…
I don't think there's anything strange about a predominantly Republican state being worried about what "big brother" is up to in their own back yard. Especially Utah, which still has an unusually fresh memory of real repression at the hands of the federal government related to its history with Mormonism[1] and polygamy[2]. It probably also helps that the Democratic Obama administration has caused a lot of Republican voters in Utah to dislike the federal government even further.
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_War [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latter_Day_Saint_polygamy_in_th...
> “What’s noteworthy is no one on the panel said: ‘Hey, wait a minute, we can’t do this,'” he says. “They had some specific concerns about the language of the bill, but there was no outright opposition.” That's pretty surprising given how incredibly conservative/Republican the state of Utah is. I'd be surprised if the bill passed (and if it was it would surely be caught up in litigation), but kudos to someone in such…
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Part of the reason people would even want to send a boat full of troops is because of the way our military interacts with the rest of the world. It's an unfortunate situation to be in but that doesn't mean it needs to continue forever. If we would just scale back the size of our military presence it would definitely be safer for everyone.
Safer for who? Probably not for Europe, certainly Eastern Europe who see what Putin is doing in Ukraine. Probably not for Japan and South Korea, both of whom rely on US military backing against undemocratic opponents who have designs on their territory. US military strength underpins the current Western democratic system, which keeps the US wealthy through trade and commerce.
>“refuse support to any federal agency which collects electronic data within this state.”
Wikipedia has a huge list of U.S. federal agencies [0]. Can someone provide an example of a federal agency that doesn't collect data in Utah?
Skimming through the list, I would expect that nearly all of them do collect data in Utah.
(Admittedly, I didn't read the bill so it's quite possible that "support" and "data" are very specifically defined.)
[0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_federal_agencies_in_th...
> “What’s noteworthy is no one on the panel said: ‘Hey, wait a minute, we can’t do this,'” he says. “They had some specific concerns about the language of the bill, but there was no outright opposition.” That's pretty surprising given how incredibly conservative/Republican the state of Utah is. I'd be surprised if the bill passed (and if it was it would surely be caught up in litigation), but kudos to someone in such…
Your surprise that "incredibly conservative/Republican" types are for this reveals that you don't know very much about us.
why would they need that much water anyways ?
> “What’s noteworthy is no one on the panel said: ‘Hey, wait a minute, we can’t do this,'” he says. “They had some specific concerns about the language of the bill, but there was no outright opposition.” That's pretty surprising given how incredibly conservative/Republican the state of Utah is. I'd be surprised if the bill passed (and if it was it would surely be caught up in litigation), but kudos to someone in such…
Why should that be surprising? Republicans / conservatives are all about personal liberty. And reducing taxes, which seems relevant in this case. The justification given in the article for supporting the bill is that they don't want to support the NSA "on the back of our citizens", after all.
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Glad to retract the first sentence of that if it hurt your feelings, but honestly how do you envision running/protecting a country without an organization with a similar mission statement in the modern world? I'm a peaceful person, but not all of the world is. You just can't ignore that. Even if you're Switzerland, you don't want to essentially keep your ears open for people sending coded messages about their potenti…