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Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#62Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…
The 250 users / $1 million revenue thing is a bit weird. Any tech company with more than 10 employees probably has upwards of $1 million/year in revenue. The salary bill alone will be pushing that quite quickly. There seems to be a huge disparity between 250 PCs and $1 million annual revenue. If you had 250 PCs with less than $1 million annual revenue you'd be paying each employee less than $4000 a year.
There are startups with 5-50 employees that have no revenue. I think the $1 million covers "established business", and 250 PCs covers "really well funded startup".
Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#63How is this different from Express versions?
Also, all languages (C++, C#, Basic) in one IDE. The Express versions have one language each.
Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#64This is a surprising move, won't it result in a large drop in their MSDN subscriber base? I may be wrong here, but as far as I can tell, the only reason to maintain an MSDN subscription for the purposes of Visual Studio (assuming you're eligible to use Visual Studio Community 2013) is if you want the features in editions beyond Professional, you want to be on the bleeding edge, or you want the peripheral perks of sub…
Where I work has 5x complimentary MSDN Premium licenses care of whatever partnership level we have with MS.
So if they lost us to the community edition they'd lose $0. (And probably end up saving money, since no Azure developer credits.)
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#65A lot of people seem to think that steps like this are just Microsoft catching up. Which, I suppose, they are. But there's something else here too - this kind of thing, where Microsoft is opening up to the open source community, releasing more free tools, releasing more open source projects, all started happening when Satya Nadella took the reins. I think what we're looking at is a CEO that gets it and is trying to m…
Staya Nadella might be accelerating things, but Microsoft has been moving through this direction before Staya's arrival (ASP.NET MVC was open sourced in April 2009), actually I see Staya Nadella taking reins as another step Microsoft took to be more open.
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#66In my previous experiences with VS Express the installed version took about 10GBs of disk space and included plenty of stuff I didn't want or cared about, like various versions of MS SQL Server, support for VB, different runtimes for .NET, etc. Anyone knows if there's a way to avoid that? I'd like to have "just an IDE", for node and web development.
There are checkboxes to not install SQL, MFC libraries and friends. It makes it a 9GB vs. 10GB install, according to its stated amount, I didn't check actual usage.
I compared the Win32_Products that are installed before and after. Even with all checkboxes unchecked, the installer adds 100+ packages. Unfortunately most of these are not listed in the add/remove programs control panel.
Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#67This is a surprising move, won't it result in a large drop in their MSDN subscriber base? I may be wrong here, but as far as I can tell, the only reason to maintain an MSDN subscription for the purposes of Visual Studio (assuming you're eligible to use Visual Studio Community 2013) is if you want the features in editions beyond Professional, you want to be on the bleeding edge, or you want the peripheral perks of sub…
The main value of an MSDN subscription is all the subscriber downloads and the Azure credits you get.
Want to try out or develop against any piece of MS software, just download it from the MSDN portal and off you go. Want to test out provisioning with Azure or fire up a server to test or dev against, just use your Azure credits. You can happily run a couple of small servers with the Azure credits.
If you just want Visual Studio you could always buy it on its own for much less than a subscription.
Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#68How is this different from Express versions?
Also, all languages (C++, C#, Basic) in one IDE. The Express versions have one language each.
> The Express versions have one language each.
That was true of most of them through 2010 (though the 2008/2010 Web Developer Express supported, IIRC, at least C# and VB.NET as backend languages.), but not the 2012/2013 versions.
The VS2012/2013 Express Editions are not language specific, but project type specific -- the 2012 editions were "for Web", "for Windows 8" (i.e., Metro/Modern UI), "for Windows Desktop", and "for Windows Phone". 2013 merged "for Windows 8" and "for Windows Phone" into "for Windows".
Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#69A lot of people seem to think that steps like this are just Microsoft catching up. Which, I suppose, they are. But there's something else here too - this kind of thing, where Microsoft is opening up to the open source community, releasing more free tools, releasing more open source projects, all started happening when Satya Nadella took the reins. I think what we're looking at is a CEO that gets it and is trying to m…
The SDXC card format specifies exFAT as a mandatory feature - a proprietary, patent-encumbered filesystem from Microsoft. This makes it very difficult to legally support these SD cards in Open Source operating systems.
When they stop pulling crap like that, maybe I'll believe in the "new Microsoft".
Re: Get Visual Studio Community 2013 for Free
#70Important info: Q: Who can use Visual Studio Community? A: Here’s how individual developers can use Visual Studio Community: Any individual developer can use Visual Studio Community to create their own free or paid apps. Here’s how Visual Studio Community can be used in organizations: An unlimited number of users within an organization can use Visual Studio Community for the following scenarios: in a classroom learni…
I didn't realize it was so permissive for businesses. They are pretty serious about loading up the pipeline.
It is less permissive than Express was though, isn't it? I was under the impression there were no restrictions on who could use Express. If Express goes away now, some organizations will be shut out of the Community Edition due to its licensing terms and have to pay.