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Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by fakename »

leeoniya wrote: post #56
fakename wrote: post #48

"Improved network selection logic so that your device connects only if there is a verified internet connection on Wi-Fi" jfc, I can't believe this is just now being fixed. This has to be the most infuriatingly stupid thing about android. I don't have hopes of them adding the ability to intelligently switch from a weak wifi signal to a strong cell signal, but this is a step in the right direction. No more assuming I h…

> quietly joined a wifi network i would suggest not having your phone auto-connect to just any open wifi network, but that's just me.

Sometimes I will purposely log in to an airport's wifi network to use their connection. The next time I'm back in that airport, my phone remembers the network and automatically connects.

I guess I need to manually remove these one-off networks, but I don't think I should have to micromanage my phone like that.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by k-mcgrady »

obsurveyor wrote: post #53

> As previewed at Google I/O, Lollipop is our largest, most ambitious release on Android with over 5,000 new APIs for developers. As a developer not initiated to the Android platform, the second half of this sentence is a very scary thing to read.

iOS 8 included over 4,000. It's not really a big deal. There's stuff that's deprecated an replaced but won't be removed for several releases (and you'll get compiler warnings so you're aware), there's a tonne of stuff you'll never use, there are lots of API's for new features (iOS example: HealthKit), and then there are things which you'll come across from time to time that make your life a little easier.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by fakename »

Florin_Andrei wrote: post #55
fakename wrote: post #48

"Improved network selection logic so that your device connects only if there is a verified internet connection on Wi-Fi" jfc, I can't believe this is just now being fixed. This has to be the most infuriatingly stupid thing about android. I don't have hopes of them adding the ability to intelligently switch from a weak wifi signal to a strong cell signal, but this is a step in the right direction. No more assuming I h…

> adding the ability to intelligently switch from a weak wifi signal to a strong cell signal Yeah, it hangs on that tiny, unusable WiFi signal for dear life, even when it cannot move a single bit of data through it. Meanwhile, the GSM data channel lies there unused. :(

I live in a long apartment with thick walls, so there are lots of wifi dead zones. I'm constantly turning wifi on and off as I move from room to room.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by leeoniya »

fakename wrote: post #61
leeoniya wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> quietly joined a wifi network i would suggest not having your phone auto-connect to just any open wifi network, but that's just me.

Sometimes I will purposely log in to an airport's wifi network to use their connection. The next time I'm back in that airport, my phone remembers the network and automatically connects. I guess I need to manually remove these one-off networks, but I don't think I should have to micromanage my phone like that.

there's probably some app to auto-forget or a setting to "never remember" specific networks (especially ones that require an intermediate EULA agreement, which i assume the airport has)

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by pornel »

leeoniya wrote: post #56
fakename wrote: post #48

"Improved network selection logic so that your device connects only if there is a verified internet connection on Wi-Fi" jfc, I can't believe this is just now being fixed. This has to be the most infuriatingly stupid thing about android. I don't have hopes of them adding the ability to intelligently switch from a weak wifi signal to a strong cell signal, but this is a step in the right direction. No more assuming I h…

> quietly joined a wifi network i would suggest not having your phone auto-connect to just any open wifi network, but that's just me.

I don't know about L, but KitKat instantly "saves" every network you tap on, even if it's broken. I didn't find option to disable that (but then I'd worry whether it'd save passwords at all).

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by tracker1 »

hooplarbazaar wrote: post #39
moskie wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't have personal experience with this, but my anecdotal observations of friends with iPhones is that installing the new version of iOS on devices ~2 years old just makes people want to ditch those old phones and get the new ones, because performance isn't good any more. The conspiracy theorist voice in my head says this isn't a coincidence.

Most talk on the internet points to performance issues with iOS8 on the iPhone 4S, which is a 3 year old phone at this point. On the iPhone 5, iOS 8 performance is brilliant, which it needs to be, because Apple are still selling the iPhone 5C. When I see the Nexus 4 in public now, it's effectively a crippled phone. With Apple you're getting 1-2 years extra, which probably makes it worth it over the lifetime of the de…

I don't game on my phone... and have been using a Nexus 4 since release... the only time I notice any performance issue, is when I'm using Chromecast... I was really hoping to see the base price closer to the just under $400 I payed for my n4 (with shipping)... now, I'm not sure. May go for a Moto X once Android 5 is on it.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by mtck »

"The songs, photos, apps, and even recent searches from one of your Android devices can be immediately enjoyed across all of your Android devices."

Catching up to Apple but I'd love to see this across laptops as an app or through Chrome.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by fudged71 »

fakename wrote: post #48

"Improved network selection logic so that your device connects only if there is a verified internet connection on Wi-Fi" jfc, I can't believe this is just now being fixed. This has to be the most infuriatingly stupid thing about android. I don't have hopes of them adding the ability to intelligently switch from a weak wifi signal to a strong cell signal, but this is a step in the right direction. No more assuming I h…

It's a ridiculous hack, but here is what I do on Android:

Wi-Fi Matic saves the cell tower info when I successfully connect to an accesspoint, and turns on my Wi-Fi when I enter that area again. When I'm there, Wi-Fi Web Login replays a script that logs in to the captive portal webpage.

Great for travelling.

Re: Android 5.0 Lollipop

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Post by olalonde »

fakename wrote: post #48

"Improved network selection logic so that your device connects only if there is a verified internet connection on Wi-Fi" jfc, I can't believe this is just now being fixed. This has to be the most infuriatingly stupid thing about android. I don't have hopes of them adding the ability to intelligently switch from a weak wifi signal to a strong cell signal, but this is a step in the right direction. No more assuming I h…

+1. I always end up turning off my Wifi because of this and often forget to turn it back on when I'm home (which wastes my cellphone data).
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