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HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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I cut the cord 3 years ago and regularly pay 2 dollars an episode for shows I want to watch. I own several rokus and pay for prime, hulu (occasionally) and netflix (occasionally). I have never been happier with my tv/media consumption.

Hulu is the only thing I would like to replace... I have no tolerance for ads... I'd pay more to get rid of them. I don't know how anyone watches regular tv (unless it's with a DVR).

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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What would really be groundbreaking is to allow non-US based viewers to subscribe to the service, without any type of geo fence. I would be happy to pay for the service as a European consumer. That would mean no more GoT torrenting for me.

From the article sounds like it will happen:

  This service will be offered in the United States and there are also plans to bring it overseas

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hopefully they DO decide to be yet another island. Otherwise, services like Netflix will turn into cable. I have no problem using AppleTV/Roku browsing to the service I want.

I do wish AppleTV had federated search. Well, maybe it will tomorrow.

Yes, the timing of this news the day before the Apple event is...interesting.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Now this just needs to happen with other TV networks. For example, I'd love to pay AMC Networks[0], A&E Networks[1], or NBC Universal[2] a nominal monthly fee to access their catalogs on-demand. While it's true that these networks stream some of their current shows online, the players and streaming experience is usually very terrible. That's how I want to the future to be: everything is like Netflix or HBO-sans-cable…

The aggregate of all these fees (plus Netflix, Amazon, etc) will likely approach or exceed the cost of a typical cable subscription.

If there are no ads and I can watch what I want on demand, then it's totally worth it. It might be more expensive, but the value is greater as well.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Seems like they're finally embracing the philosophy to fighting piracy from Kim Dotcom: How to stop piracy: 1. Create great content 2. Make it easy to buy 3. Same day global release 4. Works on any device 5. Fair price

> 4. Works on any device that probably means no DRM

Because DRM never gets cracked on day one anyways. And because DRM totally stops you from using a screen recorder to save the content in a DRM-free format.

Maybe with something like video games it can net a few extra days of sales before torrents go online, but ripping music and video is so simple. In that case, DRM is just a joke that makes the executives and lawyers happy, wastes money and time developing, and can cause trouble for the consumer.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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post #5

What would really be groundbreaking is to allow non-US based viewers to subscribe to the service, without any type of geo fence. I would be happy to pay for the service as a European consumer. That would mean no more GoT torrenting for me.

Imagine, that, for a fee, they could include subtitling/dubbing in the given GEO for an additional fee - wouldn't that be worth it over subscribing to a VPN?

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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I ditched cable a while ago, but wasn't willing to give up watching some HBO shows, so I convinced myself that pirating them was 'ok,' since that was 'the only for me to get them.' I later realized that my attitude was hypocritical, that I just wanted to have my cake and eat it too. I stopped pirating their shows then, and have definitely missed some of them. So I am excited about this, and will subscribe as soon as…

I've found that it's not terribly difficult to wait for the shows to come to Amazon Instant. For a bit I pirated premium channel content on release and bought it on Amazon Instant after the fact. I eventually realized that waiting really didn't impact my enjoyment. I do still supplement my NBA League Pass with viewing of unauthorized streams for games that are not aired on League Pass.

Game of Thrones season 4 is still not on Amazon in the US. I think that would impact my enjoyment, since part of the enjoyment is being able to talk to people about it. By the time I'd be able to watch it on there, they wouldn't even remember what happened that season.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

#69

I ditched cable a while ago, but wasn't willing to give up watching some HBO shows, so I convinced myself that pirating them was 'ok,' since that was 'the only for me to get them.' I later realized that my attitude was hypocritical, that I just wanted to have my cake and eat it too. I stopped pirating their shows then, and have definitely missed some of them. So I am excited about this, and will subscribe as soon as…

I realized myself that copyrighted shows are supposed to enter the public domain eventually... meaning that HBO doesn't own them, it just (long term) leases them from the public. It also occurred to me that it, along with other big companies, were trying to bribe and cajole Congress into giving that property away forever, when it firmly belongs to the public.

The public has decided to revoke their privilege. If Congress hasn't codified that revocation, then this is a problem with Congress and not with the public.

Fuck em.

Re: HBO is finally going to let you watch its shows without cable

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The aggregate of all these fees (plus Netflix, Amazon, etc) will likely approach or exceed the cost of a typical cable subscription.

> The aggregate of all these fees (plus Netflix, Amazon, etc) will likely approach or exceed the cost of a typical cable subscription. The single-service cost of any one of the most popular services will likely approach or exceed the cost of a typical cable subscription while providing far less (but more focussed) content.

Unless one of those services is HBO Go. At least in my market, the cheapest cable package that includes HBO is extraordinarily expensive (often in the neighborhood of $120/mo). Of course, this makes some pretty thick assumptions about the cost of HBO Go as an over-the-top service.
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