I literally thought they are giving out backpacks so I was like WOW, then I realized it is a bunch of tools. Well, better than nothing, free server from DigitalOcean is pretty useful for me as a student to learn about deploying on an actual server instead of relying on 3rd party services like heroku.
GitHub Student Developer Pack
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Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#62I really appreciate Github doing this, so kudos to them.
While I'm no longer a student myself, I don't think cost is the main prohibitive factor for students. The fundamental tools I use for my side projects - Atom, Bitbucket and Heroku - are available for free. The other services are nice to have, but seem to be much more niche.
I think the prohibitive factor is the perception that coding is hard and complex for regular folks, and is only easy for the few born with innate ability.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#63"If you're a student aged 13+ and enrolled in degree or diploma granting course of study"
So this doesn't include people in bootcamps? It seems like a ding to those programs that they aren't considered student developers by GitHub. This might be an oversight or a technicality, but it's too bad.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#64This really makes something I've been thinking about very clear. I often think about the "everyone can code" movement. It's not something I particularly believe in, but exposing as many people as possible is a great thing. However, the bit I get stuck on is programming is more than just typing characters in the correct sequence. It's deploying, testing, environment issues, metrics, databases, dns, etc. Basically it i…
> It's deploying, testing, environment issues, metrics, databases, dns, etc. Basically it is a lot more complex than "learn to code".
I would even go further and say that such things are well over 50% of a working programmer's time. Learning the toolset for modern programming is as hard or harder than learning how to program well. It's a different kind of hard, though -- the ability to slog through tedium and frustration.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#65Earlier quoted context omitted.
What parts of the overall ecosystem do you consider a necessity for private repos?
I like starting a school-related project as a private Github repo, then as time or permission allows for to open it up as a public repo. I've open-sourced a few things this way, whereas the couple Bitbucket repos have been left to languish since I don't have a limit on private repos or the ecosystem to share it with.
It is very easy to import a private BitBucket repo and make it public on GitHub.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#66Earlier quoted context omitted.
What parts of the overall ecosystem do you consider a necessity for private repos?
I like starting a school-related project as a private Github repo, then as time or permission allows for to open it up as a public repo. I've open-sourced a few things this way, whereas the couple Bitbucket repos have been left to languish since I don't have a limit on private repos or the ecosystem to share it with.
I'm sure you know, but you can just clone from bitbucket, then push it to github. You keep all your history and everything. I can dig that there's friction, though.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#67Awesome service guys. The following criticism is not for github, but for our culture as a whole. I cannot get myself to agree with how our culture has come to describe a 'student'. An example would be the following: "If you're a student aged 13+ and enrolled in degree or diploma granting course of study, the GitHub Student Developer Pack is for you. All you need is a school-issued email address, valid student identif…
> So I need to pay money to a big institution to be considered a student?
In the US, I guess you do.
Here in Finland, all uni/polytechnic/what-have-you students get a school-issued email address and student identification card, and tuition is free.
So I guess your criticism is for the US culture? :)
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#68This is going to be helpful to many students, but...
But the constraints imposed by not being able to pay for third-party services during my years as a student have been the main motivator behind tinkering with setting up my own services and finding (FLOSS) alternative solutions to the well-known applications the grown ups were using.
I think one has to "suffer" through all the required stages in order to grok all the IT/CS/CSE problems and tradeoffs that exist out there. I also think this suffering is needed to appreciate why these service are good.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#69Awesome service guys. The following criticism is not for github, but for our culture as a whole. I cannot get myself to agree with how our culture has come to describe a 'student'. An example would be the following: "If you're a student aged 13+ and enrolled in degree or diploma granting course of study, the GitHub Student Developer Pack is for you. All you need is a school-issued email address, valid student identif…
It's treating "student" as the individual's current occupation, which seems reasonable. But if you are conducting your own unaffiliated independent study that eats up most of your workday, you can probably get in touch with them and get a waiver.
Re: GitHub Student Developer Pack
#70Awesome service guys. The following criticism is not for github, but for our culture as a whole. I cannot get myself to agree with how our culture has come to describe a 'student'. An example would be the following: "If you're a student aged 13+ and enrolled in degree or diploma granting course of study, the GitHub Student Developer Pack is for you. All you need is a school-issued email address, valid student identif…
> So I need to pay money to a big institution to be considered a student? In the US, I guess you do. Here in Finland, all uni/polytechnic/what-have-you students get a school-issued email address and student identification card, and tuition is free. So I guess your criticism is for the US culture? :)
It is not only the US which abides by this culture, much of the world does. Northern Europe comes across as a stark exception, though!