iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets • Hacker News Board

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by highace » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:17 PM UTC

MCRed wrote: post #50

Nursie wrote: post #24

That's a shame, and not something I've experienced with my Galaxy Notes of various generations. You'd think it would be tested for this sort of thing. Though who knows, maybe some folks have had problems with these devices and it's just not widely reported. Given the high profile launches and expectations of flawlessness from Apple (rightly or wrongly), it may well come under increased scrutiny.

The galaxy note is made out of plastic, it wouldn't bend, it would break, if subjected to the same forces. This is like antenna gate-- typical Apple bashing pretending like there's some sort of defect when there isn't. And like antenna gate, if you analyze other phones on the market, you'll find they too don't have super human strength. In fact, the fact that they bent, instead of breaking, is pretty strong evidence…

Pretty sure a pants pocket doesn't exert the kind of force required to break a plastic phone. Bend slightly - sure, but fortunately plastic returns to it's original shape once the tension has eased. Metal... not so much.

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by qwerta » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:18 PM UTC

MCRed wrote: post #50

Nursie wrote: post #24

That's a shame, and not something I've experienced with my Galaxy Notes of various generations. You'd think it would be tested for this sort of thing. Though who knows, maybe some folks have had problems with these devices and it's just not widely reported. Given the high profile launches and expectations of flawlessness from Apple (rightly or wrongly), it may well come under increased scrutiny.

The galaxy note is made out of plastic, it wouldn't bend, it would break, if subjected to the same forces. This is like antenna gate-- typical Apple bashing pretending like there's some sort of defect when there isn't. And like antenna gate, if you analyze other phones on the market, you'll find they too don't have super human strength. In fact, the fact that they bent, instead of breaking, is pretty strong evidence…

Cheap 5" chinese phone did not bend or break. Perhaps expand your market a bit...

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by IkmoIkmo » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:20 PM UTC

qwerta wrote: post #58

Can wait for dialog "it is a feature" and response from competitors "our phones do not bend" :-)

Already heard one today: 'Apple phones at this pressure bend, Android phones at this pressure break'. i.e. it's a feature.

It's a fair point if actually true, but I've seen people bend this iphone with their fingers. I haven't seen anyone break a flagship android phone with their fingers.

In any case, it's not relevant to me to do a competitor comparison, as when you make the comparison to the iphone 1,2,3,4,5, it's obviously worse.

edit: video of a note 4 bend test, seems the 6+ has a unique problem.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FwM4ypi3at0

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by personZ » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:20 PM UTC

MCRed wrote: post #50

Nursie wrote: post #24

That's a shame, and not something I've experienced with my Galaxy Notes of various generations. You'd think it would be tested for this sort of thing. Though who knows, maybe some folks have had problems with these devices and it's just not widely reported. Given the high profile launches and expectations of flawlessness from Apple (rightly or wrongly), it may well come under increased scrutiny.

The galaxy note is made out of plastic, it wouldn't bend, it would break, if subjected to the same forces. This is like antenna gate-- typical Apple bashing pretending like there's some sort of defect when there isn't. And like antenna gate, if you analyze other phones on the market, you'll find they too don't have super human strength. In fact, the fact that they bent, instead of breaking, is pretty strong evidence…

The galaxy note is made out of plastic, it wouldn't bend, it would break, if subjected to the same forces.

Based upon, apparently, your opinion?

they are built to be durable in a way that very few of their competitors are.

Material porn has absolutely nothing to do with actual suitability to purpose. iPhone devices are absolutely wonderful devices, but the narrative around the build materials, which people wrongly conflate with built "quality", is detached from reality.

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by highace » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:21 PM UTC

johnpowell wrote: post #31

This guy seems to exert a lot of force for it to bend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znK652H6yQM#t=34 I can't understand how having the same happen in your pants wouldn't indicate that maybe you should take your phone out or adjust your trousers. And I will beat you to the you are wearing your pants wrong joke.

He doesn't have to use much force to get the kind of bend that would be noticeable when the phone is put down on a flat surface. I can easily see that being possible in a fitted pair of jeans.

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by lomnie » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:21 PM UTC

petercooper wrote: post #52

It's not really a pocketable phone. Even in my sweatpants (trendy!) it proved so heavy it ended up dragging them down past my ass in the style many kids are rocking nowadays, except I don't rock the underwear or have the ass definition to pull off the look. Like an iPad, it's better placed in a bag. With everything else, really. Carrying stuff in your pockets is a pain in the arse and a great way to lose stuff.

I'm interested to know why you employ two spelling variations of ass/arse.

Does each cheek identify to different naming conventions?

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by nicholassmith » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:21 PM UTC

dalai wrote: post #3

nicholassmith wrote: post #2

The mild level of hysteria over this has been interesting. It's a slab of thin aluminium that has a large surface area, a consistent amount of pressure is going to cause bending. I'm personally surprised that the glass didn't crack on some of the pictures.

True, but I would assume that most people have a reasonable expectation that their phones will not get damaged in typical usage scenarios. And yes, I do think that putting your phone in your front pocket is typical. In my view that means that there is a design flaw.

Sure, but it's not a normal phone, it's essentially a mini-tablet at that size. Yes, there's a pervading sense of 'you're pocketing it wrong', but there's been a few photos dug up and Apple will have sold somewhere between 1-3m iPhone 6 Plus' so far. Either it's limited to very specific circumstances, or they've got devices that have a specific structural weakness, or we've yet to hear the full extent.

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by pritambaral » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:21 PM UTC

MCRed wrote: post #53

dalai wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True, but I would assume that most people have a reasonable expectation that their phones will not get damaged in typical usage scenarios. And yes, I do think that putting your phone in your front pocket is typical. In my view that means that there is a design flaw.

These are not typical usage scenarios. These are standard issue "put it in a bench press and pretend it happened in my pocket" anti-iphone hysteria. Just like the claim that the finger print scanner didn't work, the entirety of antenna gate and, naturally, all the pictures of shattered glass we see every time a new model comes out. "oh, it was just sitting on the night stand and fell about 6 inches into a pillow and…

While there is some level of faking in this world, I do not think that all claims are fake. Your absolute denial of every claim ever reads suspiciously like conspiracy theorism.

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by robflynn » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:24 PM UTC

johnpowell wrote: post #31

This guy seems to exert a lot of force for it to bend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znK652H6yQM#t=34 I can't understand how having the same happen in your pants wouldn't indicate that maybe you should take your phone out or adjust your trousers. And I will beat you to the you are wearing your pants wrong joke.

I have a bent iphone 5. I bent it by accidentally dropping it, having the back of the phone land perfectly on the small ledge leading into the doorway of my home, and then stepping on the phone (I weigh about 200lbs.)

The phone bent, but the glass did not break and the phone is still functional. That surprised me. It's actually quite curved. I'll try to get a photo of it later, not near my computer with a webcam at the moment.

I kind of lost the point I was trying to make. Mostly just posting to say, I bent my phone but it took a lot of force.

Re: iPhone 6 Plus bending in pockets

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Post by IkmoIkmo » Wed, Sep 24, 2014, 12:24 PM UTC

nicholassmith wrote: post #2

The mild level of hysteria over this has been interesting. It's a slab of thin aluminium that has a large surface area, a consistent amount of pressure is going to cause bending. I'm personally surprised that the glass didn't crack on some of the pictures.

I'd be mildly hysterical too, the 6 is a phone that'll sell 100m units within its first six months and already sold 10m in its first weekend. If some of those units are based on a faulty design, that's a really big deal affecting tens of millions of people and tens of billions of sales.