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What I use instead of Google services

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Re: What I use instead of Google services

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Browser: Safari / ... Maps: ... / Apple for directions on mobile Phone OS: iOS Calendar: iCloud And then talks about data not given to one company. Really, is it just a strange joke?

He's the CEO of DuckDuckGo and promotes to use it instead of Google, so what's to expect?

Are iCloud, iOS, Apple Maps or Safari part of DDG?

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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I, too, am very unhappy with Google. They're obviously intentionally trying to get people to get used to giving up privacy. From the moronic system Android has, to the tricky dialogs Chrome puts up, they don't like the anti-tracking sentiment.

But... DuckDuckGo just doesn't compete on search results. I changed to it as my default search engine, but I ended up going to Google most of the time.

And switching away from Android... I tried to move to Windows 8 / Phone, but the ecosystem is a joke. Desktop apps don't work well on their small tablet form factor, and the Metro apps are laughably terrible. Microsoft can't even prevent total scams, like $9 fake Netflix and HBO. And they ignore reports about them.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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Is there a good non-google alternative to Docs / Drive. I read the article hoping to find one, but didn't see any mention of one. Having a non-google version of a service which allows collaboration and modification of documents through a web browser, without additional software installed would be nice and I feel it must exist, but don't know where to look.

Anyone got a recommendation.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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Ok, say someone has a complete database of my location sampled at 10 minute intervals over the past few years. What could they do with that information that would be harmful to me?

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Communist Party?

Isn't that a McCarthyism problem, not a data problem?

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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The difference between data privacy now, and data privacy 10 or 20 years ago has little to do with how many people have access to it, or how secure it is. It mostly has to do with who can analyze it. An example: where you walk in public is public information, but for most of human history, no one has had the capability to keep a database of that information and query it retroactively. Your location information is the…

Ok, say someone has a complete database of my location sampled at 10 minute intervals over the past few years. What could they do with that information that would be harmful to me?

...because you have nothing to hide?

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=privacy+nothing+to+hide

You are asking your question from a position of luck (that you, in particular, can afford to be an open book) and mostly at the wrong level. It's not about how it will affect you, it's about how it will affect him/her, and us.

Improving your privacy helps people who have legitimate things to hide avoid unwarranted suspicion, and it also makes our society better.

Secrets are sometimes bad, but are far more often good -- allowing us to have functional foreign relations, strong individual rights, and the ability to communicate freely about ideas central to our republic. No good will ever come of the ability to Google: "people unlikely to toe the line".

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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I switched to fastmail and duckduckgo in lieu of google products a little over a year ago for some of the same reasons. I tried to switch to safari from chrome, and that experiment lasted about 3 months before I got annoyed by how safari handles multiple tabs. But, as far as most of the criticisms posted here, they're really unfounded. If you want to be a purist about privacy, you really have to just quit using techn…

My thing isn't that I don't trust any one particular Google product. It's that I don't feel safe putting all of my eggs into one basket. A year ago, Google was my phone, my search engine, my email, video hosting, my DNS, my IM service (GTalk when it was still a thing), and cloud storage system. That's a lot of personal stuff all tied together under one account. So I split things up. I hosted some stuff where I could (email and online storage) and used different services/products where I couldn't. But I also continue to use Google for my search engine.

I don't really see it as a question of if Google will screw up with people's data, it's a question of when.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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Browser: Safari / ... Maps: ... / Apple for directions on mobile Phone OS: iOS Calendar: iCloud And then talks about data not given to one company. Really, is it just a strange joke?

It's obviously not smart to rely on one company that heavily, but I can see his reasoning behind using Apple products. I too am not using any Google services if I can help it but if I had to make a choice between giving my data to Google or Apple, I'd choose Apple. Not because I trust Apple more than I trust Google, but because I trust their source of income. Apple's business is to sell you hardware, while Google's business is to gather information about you so it can show you ads.

Re: What I use instead of Google services

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He's the CEO of DuckDuckGo and promotes to use it instead of Google, so what's to expect?

Are iCloud, iOS, Apple Maps or Safari part of DDG?

No, but since some of his suggestions are DDG and he is the DDG CEO, questioning his integrity doesn't seem so far-fetched.
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