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Re: The New Foursquare

#61

Post by frostmatthew »

schainan wrote: post #32
acquiHire2014 wrote: post #2

They've sacrificed their core of users who supplied all of the checkins and tips in order to try to kill Yelp. Problem was, only those loyal users were ever convinced that they were better than yelp. Now that they've chosen the foursquare name, which is synonymous with checkins, for their Yelp clone, it seems like they haven't thought out... 1. If the checkin users leave because Swarm is stupid and eliminates everyth…

I work for Foursquare; here's my answer to #3: It's not just that tips are shorter than reviews, though that's part of it. The issue with Yelp is that every single user gets the same recommendations if they search at the same place and time. And in a world where everything is becoming more personalized, it's crazy that the predominant app in the local search category does nothing to tailor its results to you. When yo…

> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in

You/Foursquare really should clarify exactly what you mean by this - we keep hearing how "successful" Swarm is but it seems most [former] users (including me) and their friends (including mine) stopped using it when (or shortly after) the switch happened.

Right now Foursquare sounds like Google in the early days of Google+ where they were touting how much people were posting but everybody was saying they never saw any activity in their stream.

Re: The New Foursquare

#62

Post by TeMPOraL »

schainan wrote: post #32
acquiHire2014 wrote: post #2

They've sacrificed their core of users who supplied all of the checkins and tips in order to try to kill Yelp. Problem was, only those loyal users were ever convinced that they were better than yelp. Now that they've chosen the foursquare name, which is synonymous with checkins, for their Yelp clone, it seems like they haven't thought out... 1. If the checkin users leave because Swarm is stupid and eliminates everyth…

I work for Foursquare; here's my answer to #3: It's not just that tips are shorter than reviews, though that's part of it. The issue with Yelp is that every single user gets the same recommendations if they search at the same place and time. And in a world where everything is becoming more personalized, it's crazy that the predominant app in the local search category does nothing to tailor its results to you. When yo…

> Furthermore, we still have tons of check-in data - 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in.

Isn't that because Foursquare auto-updated to Swarm? Or something? I don't even remember how I got that app on my phone, and I opened it maybe twice. Check-ins (or something) appear to be fully automatic, there's no need to even open the app, and the only reason I haven't deleted it yet is because I'm too lazy. I'm dead serious here. I loved Foursquare and used it over Yelp (making my friend Yelp Community Manager unhappy), but now I find it completely worthless.

EDIT:

[0] made me finally remove Swarm. I don't need an app I don't use eat my power while I still haven't bought that powerbank to be able to play Ingress longer.

[0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8143970

Re: The New Foursquare

#63

Post by TeMPOraL »

_mikz wrote: post #13
acquiHire2014 wrote: post #2

They've sacrificed their core of users who supplied all of the checkins and tips in order to try to kill Yelp. Problem was, only those loyal users were ever convinced that they were better than yelp. Now that they've chosen the foursquare name, which is synonymous with checkins, for their Yelp clone, it seems like they haven't thought out... 1. If the checkin users leave because Swarm is stupid and eliminates everyth…

I've stopped using 4sq when they forced to check in through Swarm. Swarm was constantly monitoring me and eating the battery. At least in Foursquare app you could turn of the 'Radar'. Good bye 4sq.

Eating the battery you say? Ok, this is enough. I just uninstalled both apps. I don't need stuff I don't use competing with Ingress over power.

sigh

Re: The New Foursquare

#64

Post by tedks »

misiti3780 wrote: post #44
nevi-me wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also agree, for me the mayorships are what kept me checking in to my regular places, I kinda feel like the Swarm split killed Foursquare. Their loss I guess.

why do you care about being the mayor? was there some benefit beyond the foursquare status I am not aware of ?

Ridiculously type-A people can't see a game without wanting to win it.

That's at least what got me on foursquare. Really sad to see points go. Every time I traveled I'd try to top my high score and I really think it helped.

Re: The New Foursquare

#65

Post by TeMPOraL »

teh_klev wrote: post #58

Can anyone explain the point of Foursquare? I live in rural Scotland, I ended up muting or ignoring friends who did this "I've just checked in " through Foursqaure. It just got really annoying, I don't really care about where my pals are "checking in to". Please enlighten me.

It's much more useful in a dense urban area. You can e.g. see that your friend is on the same event as you. Or in a caffee two blocks from you. Or in a cinema watching a movie, so you now have a conversation topic.

One of my experiences of using Foursquare is when a friend of mine checked in to a particular takeout food venue we fancy. A notification came, and a guy sitting next to me got his phone and call the mentioned friend to also buy food for all of us.

Such random situations were the main value of Foursquare to me.

Re: The New Foursquare

#66

Post by TeMPOraL »

frostmatthew wrote: post #61
schainan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for Foursquare; here's my answer to #3: It's not just that tips are shorter than reviews, though that's part of it. The issue with Yelp is that every single user gets the same recommendations if they search at the same place and time. And in a world where everything is becoming more personalized, it's crazy that the predominant app in the local search category does nothing to tailor its results to you. When yo…

> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in You/Foursquare really should clarify exactly what you mean by this - we keep hearing how "successful" Swarm is but it seems most [former] users (including me) and their friends (including mine) stopped using it when (or shortly after) the switch happened. Right now Foursquare sounds like Google in the early days of Google+ where they were to…

There is some sort of automated checking in going on; I haven't checked in even once in Swarm, and I've been asked by my friends if I'm a fan of this change because apparently, I've been checking in all over the city.

Re: The New Foursquare

#67

Post by nacs »

schainan wrote: post #32
acquiHire2014 wrote: post #2

They've sacrificed their core of users who supplied all of the checkins and tips in order to try to kill Yelp. Problem was, only those loyal users were ever convinced that they were better than yelp. Now that they've chosen the foursquare name, which is synonymous with checkins, for their Yelp clone, it seems like they haven't thought out... 1. If the checkin users leave because Swarm is stupid and eliminates everyth…

I work for Foursquare; here's my answer to #3: It's not just that tips are shorter than reviews, though that's part of it. The issue with Yelp is that every single user gets the same recommendations if they search at the same place and time. And in a world where everything is becoming more personalized, it's crazy that the predominant app in the local search category does nothing to tailor its results to you. When yo…

> Furthermore, we still have tons of check-in data - 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm

The 90% of users who were basically forced to switch to it have given your app an overwhelmingly negative 2 star rating.

They may have downloaded it since they don't have much of a choice but its clear the vast majority of your users hate it.

Re: The New Foursquare

#68

Post by nacs »

tibu wrote: post #57
schainan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for Foursquare; here's my answer to #3: It's not just that tips are shorter than reviews, though that's part of it. The issue with Yelp is that every single user gets the same recommendations if they search at the same place and time. And in a world where everything is becoming more personalized, it's crazy that the predominant app in the local search category does nothing to tailor its results to you. When yo…

Are you sure about the 90%? I've been a hardcore user and I don't use it since Swarm. And most of my friends don't use it anymore. People will slowly get out of it, tips will be ages old and somethings else will take over the place. I'm just sad that I put so much energy to get new places onto the map and write tips and you just make them fade away...

The 90% is likely users downloading it since they were basically forced to with the split, started it up once and quit using it.

The 2 star reviews on the Appstore show retention is likely horrible with the new app.

Re: The New Foursquare

#69

Post by AznHisoka »

frostmatthew wrote: post #61
schainan wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I work for Foursquare; here's my answer to #3: It's not just that tips are shorter than reviews, though that's part of it. The issue with Yelp is that every single user gets the same recommendations if they search at the same place and time. And in a world where everything is becoming more personalized, it's crazy that the predominant app in the local search category does nothing to tailor its results to you. When yo…

> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in You/Foursquare really should clarify exactly what you mean by this - we keep hearing how "successful" Swarm is but it seems most [former] users (including me) and their friends (including mine) stopped using it when (or shortly after) the switch happened. Right now Foursquare sounds like Google in the early days of Google+ where they were to…

Considering how popular it is to inflate ego metrics, safe to assume 90% means 90% of people who use the app everyday, or something incredibly obtuse.

Not even Candy Crush can say 90% of users download a new game, etc. Let alone Foursquare. yawns

Re: The New Foursquare

#70

Post by malbiniak »

TeMPOraL wrote: post #66
frostmatthew wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> 90% of our checkin users have moved over to Swarm and continue to check in You/Foursquare really should clarify exactly what you mean by this - we keep hearing how "successful" Swarm is but it seems most [former] users (including me) and their friends (including mine) stopped using it when (or shortly after) the switch happened. Right now Foursquare sounds like Google in the early days of Google+ where they were to…

There is some sort of automated checking in going on; I haven't checked in even once in Swarm, and I've been asked by my friends if I'm a fan of this change because apparently, I've been checking in all over the city.

Your location/neighborhood is being updated automatically in the background, but you are not automatically checked into venues.
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