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Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

#62

What makes the main developer, irungentoo, qualified to write the Tox core?

Starting a new, blue water distributed encryption system in a non-safe language is odd at this point. The protocol is being _noodled_ through and the code is in C.

This is the coding style

https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/commit/84c28337d248bad...

this is openssl all over again

https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/commit/1d6c3934736c369...

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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post #33

I guess you've settled on a name, pretty completely, but tox evokes all sorts of bad feelings like "Toxin", "Detox" - generally feelings associated with the idea of poison or of poisoning yourself. From a marketing perspective this might not be the least sinister name you could have chosen. I realize this comes out of 4chan and we make a point of not giving a shit about marketing but...

I disagree, it sounds like "talks" to me. Pretty cool name actually.

Whether "tox" sounds like "talks" will depend on whether or not your dialect exhibits the cot/caught merger. To those of us without, it sounds very different!

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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post #33

I guess you've settled on a name, pretty completely, but tox evokes all sorts of bad feelings like "Toxin", "Detox" - generally feelings associated with the idea of poison or of poisoning yourself. From a marketing perspective this might not be the least sinister name you could have chosen. I realize this comes out of 4chan and we make a point of not giving a shit about marketing but...

I like the name, sounds like something that would give certain government agencies heartburn.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

#65
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are IP addresses encrypted in the DHT?

Instead of doing things like encrypting ips, peers have temporary DHT public keys. The only way to get the ip of someone from their Tox id is by knowing their public DHT key which they will only send you if they are your friend. How this works is described in detail: https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/blob/master/docs/Preve...

this sounds insane. but im not familiar with all the concepts. it seems that now instead of alice and bob exposing their real keys, you have node a, b, c and d exposing theirs during bob handshake... which will lead to sociopath nodes that wont be part of this, but rely on nodes that accepts it for them.

also, if the message is encrypted, why not use a "torrent" of all the messages being shared and discarded after a while (no need for offline messages anyway) and each node decrypts its own as they please but relay all of them in the same stream? no way to know who could decode it. and it was delivered to everyone. much like a bitcoin transaction, but without the metadata.

it would probably be vulnerable to a dos by flooding it with bogus, expensive to try to read, requests... but will be the most reliable and private you can get

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

#66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No. They have to be friends with you.

But you don't have to actually know them. If they posted their Tox ID on 4chan, which happens all the time, and they accept my friend request, I would have their IP address, correct?

How else would you connect to them in decentralized fashion? Your IP address isn't really useful information anyway.

Note that being friends in this context means the users have added each other.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

#68
post #62

What makes the main developer, irungentoo, qualified to write the Tox core?

Starting a new, blue water distributed encryption system in a non-safe language is odd at this point. The protocol is being _noodled_ through and the code is in C. This is the coding style https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/commit/84c28337d248bad... this is openssl all over again https://github.com/irungentoo/toxcore/commit/1d6c3934736c369...

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Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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post #33

I guess you've settled on a name, pretty completely, but tox evokes all sorts of bad feelings like "Toxin", "Detox" - generally feelings associated with the idea of poison or of poisoning yourself. From a marketing perspective this might not be the least sinister name you could have chosen. I realize this comes out of 4chan and we make a point of not giving a shit about marketing but...

The first thing I thought of was toxic.

Toxic is the name of the CLI client. https://github.com/tox/toxic

I take the opposite perspective though. In nature toxins and poisons are used as protection against predators.

Re: Tox: A simple, distributed, free, secure Skype replacement. Now alpha with A/V

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post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ignore all bait threads. Sage all bait threads. Report all bait threads. Hide all bait threads. Don't take the troll bait. ;)

those "trolls" have a very sane point about having to be an idiot to trust bittorrent, the company.

Yes they sure do.

I was referring to the OP's "deprecated" meme.

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