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Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by atmosx »

bkmartin wrote: post #59
atmosx wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But innocent civilians are NEVER OUR TARGET. I'm getting for granted that you are the USA. So in order to avoid never-ending discussions here you go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rXPrfnU3G0 They look pretty much civilians to me. ps. You know, the guy who released this video... Is hiding in an Embassy in the UK because he is terrorised by someone who call him a terrorist , food for thought!

I see you've been downvoted.. thankfully. If you would watch that video, which I reluctantly did... because I want to make sure that I'm speaking from the right position, then you would see that in the beginning of that there were 2 men with AK-47s in the open plus one with an RPG. Notice throughout they were verifying that weapons were present. Its a terrible tragedy that any innocent people died in that sequence of…

Your view is completely distorted, that's just my personal opinion and since I really don't wanna argue about it anymore (I don't see any point)... Let's agree to disagree.

As for being up/down-voted. I don't really care, I just state my views, some people like them others do not. It's what makes this community great.

Have a nice evening (it's 22:02 here! GMT+2)

Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by meowface »

snarfy wrote: post #58
walshemj wrote: post #38

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This is meaningless semantics a word can have more than one meaning eg "hacker" and one real word example Sinn Féin means Ourselves Alone so that means the IRA and PIRA are not Terrorist organisations?

The point is there is not one overarching mastermind organization controlling it all, but that's what it's made out to be. They might as well call it COBRA so they can send GI Joe in to save the day. Al Qaeda. Bah. If the IRA didn't exist long before 9/11, they would have been labeled Al Qaeda too.

Your interpretation is not right. Al Qaeda is not all orchestrated by one mastermind, but it is a consortium of related Islamist extremist groups. It's pretty safe to say that anyone who identifies as a member of Al Qaeda is interested in killing civilians.

Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by walshemj »

meowface wrote: post #62
snarfy wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is there is not one overarching mastermind organization controlling it all, but that's what it's made out to be. They might as well call it COBRA so they can send GI Joe in to save the day. Al Qaeda. Bah. If the IRA didn't exist long before 9/11, they would have been labeled Al Qaeda too.

Your interpretation is not right. Al Qaeda is not all orchestrated by one mastermind, but it is a consortium of related Islamist extremist groups. It's pretty safe to say that anyone who identifies as a member of Al Qaeda is interested in killing civilians.

I think on analyst described Al Qaeda as a franchise.

Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by meowface »

walshemj wrote: post #63
meowface wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your interpretation is not right. Al Qaeda is not all orchestrated by one mastermind, but it is a consortium of related Islamist extremist groups. It's pretty safe to say that anyone who identifies as a member of Al Qaeda is interested in killing civilians.

I think on analyst described Al Qaeda as a franchise.

Yeah, that's even more accurate than my description.

Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by [deleted] »

celticninja wrote: post #48
bkmartin wrote: post #43

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Is it? Which part of Palestine? Gaza or the West Bank? I guess that maybe it is true, since Bin Laden is dead and Netanyahu is alive...you got me there... Ukrainian kids terrorized by US/EU? Really? What are you talking about? Even in the rebel held areas, how has the US/EU EVER terrorized them? To some Afghans, we could be seen that way, but most of the population in Afghanistan would rather not take their chances w…

The motivation behind the attacks don't matter, the effect on the population being attacked does. The US is/was terrorised by Al-Qaeda and afghans and Pakistanis are being terrorised by the US (e.g drone warfare). This is a site with predominantly US and Western users so Al-Qaeda will always be the terrorists and America the freedom fighters but change the geographic location of the people you are asking and you chan…

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Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by celticninja »

tptacek wrote: post #60
celticninja wrote: post #42

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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter. I grew up in Northern Ireland in the 70,s and 80's. The distinction between the 2 depended on which street you lived on and which street they lived on. Usually they were no more than a stones throw from one another.

Well, one axis on which we can evaluate this issue: is the group in question (a) fighting for freedom or (b) fighting to prevent women from seeing doctors or driving cars? If (b), we can comfortably assume: "not freedom fighters".

Your definition of freedom differs from theirs. They belive in the freedom to follow their religion as they belive it should be followed. Their supporters believe in the same freedom. Your definition of freedom (and indeed mine) is very different. But you would be foolish to think that they thought of themselves as the bad guys and that they had no support amongst the local populace. m.youtube.com/watch?v=ToKcmnrE5oY

Re: Big Data Firm Says It Can Link Snowden Data To Changed Terrorist Behavior

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Post by lectrick »

meowface wrote: post #18
lectrick wrote: post #4

1) There is nothing that indicates that this "encryption upgrade" wasn't planned for some time. Correlation ≠ causation, and all that. 2) The very word "terrorist" is disputed, and depends on your side in any given dispute. It is the "high treason" of the 20th and 21st century, an accusation or insinuation used mainly for political reasons and not for actual utility: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism "In the int…

Where in the world are you getting #2 and #3? Al Qaeda is very clearly a terrorist group, and no where in that article is it suggested that open source software is either treasonous or related to terrorism, nor does it say the NSA thinks this.

#2 I got directly from the definition of Terrorism on Wikipedia, word-for-word.

#3: "Instead, al-Qaida has started incorporating more sophisticated open-source code to help disguise its communications. 'This is as close to proof that you can get that these have changed and improved their communications structure post the Snowden leaks,' Ahlberg said."

The insinuation here is that making powerful tools available via open source is dangerous. Don't you see it?

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