Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by megablast » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:31 AM UTC

cageface wrote: post #29

hal9000xp wrote: post #24

Good idea! But you have to add a visa information for each country. For example, I like Hong Kong, but you can't stay there more than 2 weeks (if you want stay more, you have to get work permit/get married/have business there etc). But Thailand afaik is easy country for living for a long time without work permit.

Thailand has been clamping down on tourist visa abuse lately and working there in any capacity, even if your business is entirely online and outside Thailand is illegal. You might get away with it but you're definitely taking your chances. Getting a proper work permit there is quite expensive and difficult. Cambodia and Vietnam are much laxer in this regard but also don't offer the same standard of living.

Eh, it is pretty common to Visa runs inside and outside of Thailand, the same day. Pain in the ass, but not a problem. Maybe 5 or 6th time they might get a bit uptight about it. But you could just spend some extra time in Malaysia or Laos or Vietnam.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by fookyong » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:32 AM UTC

To those in this thread saying you need an appropriate working visa to work in these countries:

Have you ever worked for a company in Country A and been sent on a business trip to Country B? Most likely your company didn't need a Country B working visa for you, just for a business trip.

I am not a lawyer, but I don't see how the digital nomad lifestyle is any different. If you're just spending short amounts of time in these countries, legally how is this any different from going on a business trip since your company and salary will be paid in the origin country.

I'm sure there's a cut off point, like once you go over a certain amount of time it becomes harder to justify your trip as a short term business trip... but what's that line?

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by wslh » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:34 AM UTC

You can live in Buenos Aires for half the price in the nomad list.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by vog » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:37 AM UTC

I find it confusing that 1°C is displayed in red, but 31°C is displayed in green (instead of bold red).

The temperature should be checked against an upper limit.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by dm2 » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:39 AM UTC

heyalexej wrote: post #58

dm2 wrote: post #53

Why would being in the center of the city be important? I would think average anywhere in the city would be more reasonable. I would also like to see the costs of a 2 bedroom apartment. I'd personally rather have an office in my apartment than a co-op space. What would the price of a small house be within 10 miles of the city? (question that could be added) How is the NomadCost calculated? These numbers don't add up:…

Most digital nomads I met in years prefer to stay close to where things are happening. Namely, where they have convenient access to food, coffee shops, gyms, coworking spaces, public transport, meeting other like minded people etc. and lastly to not lose tons of valuable time due to long commute to places of interest. I think that's what the project is aiming at. Cost of living for those "edge cases" vary even more t…

How do people deal with moving costs? I have a lot of random stuff that I "need" or would like to have but at the same time I'd be very interested in traveling and working remotely for a year or two.

It would be nice if you also had a "dog friendly/accessible" metric, that's part of the reason why living in a city center isn't reasonable for me personally, I need green spaces rather than tall buildings.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by mhoad » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:39 AM UTC

coppolaemilio wrote: post #3

Chiang Mai? You clearly haven't been there! It's nice for a holiday but not for living.

I have no idea what you are talking about. I've been living on the road for the past 18 months living in Sydney, Singapore, Nairobi, New York, Istanbul, Phuket and a few months in Chiang Mai.

I can't think of a much better location for "Digital Nomad" (as much as I despise the term) than Chiang Mai, I would move back there in a heartbeat. Cheap amazing food, cheap and amazing accommodation, insanely friendly people, very strong and well connected expat / entrepreneur community.

Genuinely I am confused why in your experience Chiang Mai is a horrible choice. I think it is currently at the top of that list for a pretty good reason.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by heyalexej » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:41 AM UTC

fookyong wrote: post #62

To those in this thread saying you need an appropriate working visa to work in these countries: Have you ever worked for a company in Country A and been sent on a business trip to Country B? Most likely your company didn't need a Country B working visa for you, just for a business trip. I am not a lawyer, but I don't see how the digital nomad lifestyle is any different. If you're just spending short amounts of time i…

That's how I see it. People who chose this lifestyle are more often than not prone to bend the rules a bit here and there (which entrepreneur/hacker doesn't?), cut some corners and tend to have some MacGyver tricks at their disposal.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by caw » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:41 AM UTC

fookyong wrote: post #62

To those in this thread saying you need an appropriate working visa to work in these countries: Have you ever worked for a company in Country A and been sent on a business trip to Country B? Most likely your company didn't need a Country B working visa for you, just for a business trip. I am not a lawyer, but I don't see how the digital nomad lifestyle is any different. If you're just spending short amounts of time i…

It really depends, and you should really check. I went to Israel for a week for business meetings, and needed a work visa. Coming from the US, I didn't need to file paperwork ahead of time, but coming from some other non-US branches I may have needed a letter of invitation from the local branch to do a business meeting and then leave.

Yes you can come in on a tourist visa and work, and I'm sure some people do that, but if you're looking to be on the full up and up, even short stays may need work visas.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by nkoren » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:41 AM UTC

pieterhg wrote: post #46

Hi HN! I made this. Here's some info on the data before everyone goes berzerk :) Firstly, it's crowdsourced from this spreadsheet http://nomadlist.io/edit/ so it might not be 100% accurate. Secondly, NomadCost != cost of living. NomadCost is based on short-term staying in a hostel, hotel or apartment in the center, working in a coworking space and having a basic meal three times a day. That's the average digital noma…

This is a fun and quite intriguing resource, but I'm skeptical of the NomadCost function. No way is is Berlin only 12% cheaper than London for a nomad. It's probably 50% or more.

Re: Show HN: NomadList – The best cities to live and work remotely in

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Post by davidw » Wed, Jul 30, 2014, 11:43 AM UTC

Milan?!

Yuck. Worst city in Italy: it's expensive, polluted, crowded, and has little of what makes Italy so nice in many other places.

Italians move there because it's the business capital of the country, and there are jobs and money. But if you can live anywhere with a decent connection... that's the last place I'd go.