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Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Hey, we can use actually data for this! http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/price-of-sodium-benzoate.htm... http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cinnamon-price.html Looks like the prices are surprisingly similar, though cinnamon is, if anything, more expensive. Additionally, I'd imagine that if sodium benzoate is the active ingredient, you'd need less of it to get the job done.

Do Alibaba also have prices for apples and oranges?

Apples: http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_...

Oranges: http://www.alibaba.com/trade/search?fsb=y&IndexArea=product_...

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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I doubt that cinnamon is cheaper than sodium benzoate.

Hey, we can use actually data for this! http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/price-of-sodium-benzoate.htm... http://www.alibaba.com/showroom/cinnamon-price.html Looks like the prices are surprisingly similar, though cinnamon is, if anything, more expensive. Additionally, I'd imagine that if sodium benzoate is the active ingredient, you'd need less of it to get the job done.

Some of the "cinnamon" results are stuffing some very odd keywords for what looks like a simple fluorescent tube.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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My mom was kind of a health nut when we were a kid, she was getting organic food way before it was in vogue to do so, and I remember when she got us Cinnamon capsules to take in the morning with our other vitamins. I always thought it was silly to take a caplet full of cinammon, but I guess maybe there was something to it

Are you seriously suggesting that people should go buy a bunch of junk from the organic food shops just in case one of them turns out to be good for you in the future? Adversely, what happens if one of them turns out to be a carcinogen or otherwise something that adversely affects health? Your mom isn't wise, she just threw enough unproven stuff down her kid's throats so that it was inevitable that one of them one da…

Are you saying organic food is carcinogenic ? not sure what your point is.

Or are you saying one shouldn't consume random stuff ? In that case, cinnamon is not random. It's a spice in use for thousands of years with many benefits already written about in traditional medicine, like turmeric. Unless you are anti-traditional medicine....in which case suddenly a lot of the wisdom over the ages must become suspect, and even rejected.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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I don't think it's gimmicky. Cinnamon is cheap and easy to make and easy to deliver to the patient. Those practical implications are lost if it's only referred to as sodium benzoate. I don't know if this research is done with the same grants as the MS/Cinnamon study from the NIH, but it sounds like it: http://www.rush.edu/webapps/MEDREL/servlet/NewsRelease?id=15...

I doubt that cinnamon is cheaper than sodium benzoate.

Once there's a patent on the use of sodium benzoate to treat things, it will be.

OK, you'll still be able to get generic sodium benzoate cheap, but it won't have whatever magic fairy dust the patented version adds to it.

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Naive comment: Indian food is loaded with cinnamon. Especially sweets. So why is India host to second largest population of Parkinsons afflicted[1]? Or maybe people are not served cinnamon rich food as they grow older because they are also rich in fat and sugar? I guess orthogonal studies like these don't have much value. There are obviously several other factors at work here. 1. http://www.epda.eu.com/en/parkinsons/…

The real question is why is the US so high? Our rates are almost as high as India's, with 1/3 the population. I have a feeling it is likely diet related, and possibly due to either the "low fat" craze not providing building blocks in the brain or the industrial fats (in particular trans fats but maybe the massive quantities of n-6 fats) causing structures to be built incorrectly or causing excess inflammation.

So, that's my hypothesis based on having done a lot of nutrition research but no Parkinson's research. Does anybody have any real info about why the US rates are so high?

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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Interesting. I didn't realize cinnamon metabolized to sodium benzoate. I've actually been trying to avoid sodium benzoate, especially in soft drinks because of worry what that preservative could possibly be doing to us (especially in the presence of vitamin c) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sodium_benzoate But I've been purposefully eating a bunch of Cinnamon. It's hard to reconcile sometimes what might be good for me…

Nicotine is sort of a mixed bag, but it isn't really the bad part of tobacco products. Cigarettes are generally bad for you because of all of the other things in them besides nicotine. The bad part of nicotine is that it is so highly addictive, but it's health benefits for things like ulcerative colitis and other afflictions are becoming better studied.

The ingredients in cigarettes are what actually make nicotine addictive...alone, it can actually be beneficial to the brain

Re: Cinnamon can reverse changes in the brains of mice with Parkinsons

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My mom was kind of a health nut when we were a kid, she was getting organic food way before it was in vogue to do so, and I remember when she got us Cinnamon capsules to take in the morning with our other vitamins. I always thought it was silly to take a caplet full of cinammon, but I guess maybe there was something to it

Are you seriously suggesting that people should go buy a bunch of junk from the organic food shops just in case one of them turns out to be good for you in the future? Adversely, what happens if one of them turns out to be a carcinogen or otherwise something that adversely affects health? Your mom isn't wise, she just threw enough unproven stuff down her kid's throats so that it was inevitable that one of them one da…

This is a really offensive comment... Plants create compounds to battle pests and radiation from the sun. A lot of these compounds such as anthocyanins and phenols are extremely beneficial to healthy humans. Definitive science is actually still catching up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthocyanin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenol

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