This looks very similar to http://www.numbeo.com which was also created in 2009. Is it the same data?
The creator of Expatistan here. No, it is not the same data. Both sites follow a similar principle but we do not share data.
Collaborative international cost-of-living index
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#62Wherever numbeo and expatistan get their data, it's utterly hilarious that the summaries rank San Jose CA about the same as Valanecia/Alicante Spain. Let me just say, there is an absolutely ludicrous error somewhere.
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#63Historical data! We want historical inflation data!
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#64Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not open it in a open data spirit to anyone so incentivise curious people can create nice analysis whenever they feel like it?
This will result in people attempting to outcompete his site using functionally the same business model and UX but superior SEO. c.f. StackOverflow clones.
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#65I'm not sure where they got their data from, but one thing stood out to me. I compared the price from Vancouver BC to Seattle WA and was surprised to say that food was cheaper in Vancouver, as Vancouverites are always coming south of the border to buy their groceries. Especially milk, which they load up on by the cart full. On this site though it says a liter of milk in Vancouver is $1.65 and a litre in the US is $2.…
Cost of living in London is 16% more expensive than in New York City
Cost of living in New York City is 14% cheaper than in London
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#66Housing was listed as 5% favorable to Vancouver.
The sub-elements listed were as follows:
Vancouver Seattle Variance
Monthly rent for 85 m2 (900 Sqft)
furnished accommodation in EXPENSIVE area $2,301 $2,216 -4%
Utilities 1 month (heating, electricity,
gas ...) for 2 people in 85m2 flat $85 $139 39%
Internet 8MB (1 month) $39 $47 17%
40” flat screen TV $473 $537 12%
Microwave, known brand, 800/900 Watt $121 $116 -4%
Laundry detergent (3 l. ~ 100 oz.) $10 $8 -25%
Hourly rate for cleaning help $23 $35 34%
Putting aside the fact that assets like a 40" TV are considered in "Housing Cost of Living", the weighted average for these inputs should be 1.5% favorable to Vancouver.Take out the TV, detergent, and maid, and you're now 1% favorable to Seattle, driven strongly by rent, obviously.
This is an interesting area of work, but I'd appreciate either full disclosure of inputs and weighting or a much more simplified presentation (e.g. stand-alone rental rates).
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#67I'm not sure where they got their data from, but one thing stood out to me. I compared the price from Vancouver BC to Seattle WA and was surprised to say that food was cheaper in Vancouver, as Vancouverites are always coming south of the border to buy their groceries. Especially milk, which they load up on by the cart full. On this site though it says a liter of milk in Vancouver is $1.65 and a litre in the US is $2.…
I may be biased in my priorities, but a 6-pack of decent beer costs $7-$8 USD in Washington and about $15-$16 CAD. Exchange rates are still nearly at parity. I find myself bringing a case to support the drinking habits of my Canadian friends every time I drive up... (No wonder they like it when I show up.)
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#68This looks very similar to http://www.numbeo.com which was also created in 2009. Is it the same data?
Well… Expatistan: "Volkswagen Golf 2.0 TDI 140 CV 6 vel. (or equivalent), with no extras, new" Numbeo: "Volkswagen Golf 1.4 90 KW Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car) " I don't know. Not the same but very close and alike. I love Numbeo and this looks eerily similar.
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#70I'm not sure where they got their data from, but one thing stood out to me. I compared the price from Vancouver BC to Seattle WA and was surprised to say that food was cheaper in Vancouver, as Vancouverites are always coming south of the border to buy their groceries. Especially milk, which they load up on by the cart full. On this site though it says a liter of milk in Vancouver is $1.65 and a litre in the US is $2.…
I see this in the recent comparison list. Very suspect. Cost of living in London is 16% more expensive than in New York City Cost of living in New York City is 14% cheaper than in London
120 is 20% higher than 100
100 is 16.(6)% lower than 120