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AT&T to Buy DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

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Re: AT&T to Buy DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

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Sports. ESPN + NFL Redzone + TNT + Local channels in HD have no good alternative on the internet. If they did I wouldn't pay for TV.

Young people don't care about sports either. eSports like they have on Twitch.tv are more and more popular. A $35 leaf antenna from amazon gets you all the local HD channels for free.

Young people don't care about sports? Wow.

Re: AT&T to Buy DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

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I'm surprised Apple didn't get into this recent movement of communications company acquisitions. For 1/3 of their cash pile, they could have streamlined control of not only the devices (tablets, phones, tv's) and the content market place (itunes), but also the infrastructure to provide media and telecom services through possible acquisitions of time warner, directv, and/or tmobile.

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post #56

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Sports. ESPN + NFL Redzone + TNT + Local channels in HD have no good alternative on the internet. If they did I wouldn't pay for TV.

Young people don't care about sports either. eSports like they have on Twitch.tv are more and more popular. A $35 leaf antenna from amazon gets you all the local HD channels for free.

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Re: AT&T to Buy DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

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Use this as a perfect example to explain to people why Net Neutrality matters. "What incentive does AT&T have to bring you good streaming experience for Netflix, Hulu, or heck even Youtube when they'd much much MUCH rather you were buying DirecTV from them?"

This answers your rhetorical question:

http://about.att.com/story/the_chernin_group_and_att_create_...

Re: AT&T to Buy DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

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post #56

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Sports. ESPN + NFL Redzone + TNT + Local channels in HD have no good alternative on the internet. If they did I wouldn't pay for TV.

Young people don't care about sports either. eSports like they have on Twitch.tv are more and more popular. A $35 leaf antenna from amazon gets you all the local HD channels for free.

I'll speak for the late 20's Crowd (although I just turned 30..) No one in my age group, that I know, watches sports at home. If they do, they go to the bar to do it.

ESports are MUCH more interesting for at-home watching.

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Yep, this is the case here as well. Paying Comcast for TV + internet because it's $15/month cheaper than internet alone. The cable box they sent me is sitting unpacked in the closet.

Can I ask where you live, and how much you pay? In the bay area internet only is marginally cheaper than any bundle. $99 for TV + 25mbps and between $66 for just the 25mbps. Teaser rates are $59 for the bundle, $29 for internet.

I live in Kirkland (a suburb of Seattle). Paying Comcast $50/month for "Blast Plus" which is 50 mbps + TV, while it's ~$69 for just 50mbps internet. Both are "promo rates" (aka call the retention dpt. once they run out and you'll get them for another year).

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Sports. ESPN + NFL Redzone + TNT + Local channels in HD have no good alternative on the internet. If they did I wouldn't pay for TV.

Yes! Cable = Sports. If they somehow decouple those two then I'm all Internet.

MLB At Bat

NHL Gamecenter

NBA League Pass

NFL Sunday Ticket (currently DirecTV exclusive via contract)

* I am assuming you are American and/or care only about the four major sports in the US. Not sure about futball, rugby, cricket, tennis, cycling, etc

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Do many young people watch TV anymore? It seems like netflix + youtube scratches that itch.

No. I have not paid for TV since I move out of my parents house 4 years ago. I have 0 plans to purchase TV ever in my life.

Even for sports, there are numerous online streams (though illegal) that I will make use of to keep up with critical games like the NBA playoffs.

Other than that the content on TV is garbage, and all the good content I can pirate easily or watch on Hulu/Netflix.

Cable companies are fucked.

Re: AT&T to Buy DirecTV for $48.5 Billion

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When people say "free and open", that's context enough to know that they mean free as in freedom, not as in beer. Please stop using this silly red herring.

I honestly didn't perceive it as "free as in freedom" in the above context. That said, roads aren't that, either. Try driving on one without a license, insurance, using them in ways that are disapproved of / disallowed (speeding heavily, drinking and driving, etc) to see. Alternatively, use the road to play a game of football. I don't really think they're "free as in freedom", either.

Stop it. You're being purposely obtuse if you're trying to equate freedom as the freedom to do crazy and nonsensical things versus freedom as a sense of liberty for people to access information, resources or services (regardless of if it's in the context of the Internet or public roads).

Your argument is in the same vein as people who try to win the debate over if we have freedom of speech or not by saying we don't because we can't yell "fire!" in a crowded movie theater. Context is everything; you can't just ignore it conveniently because you're trying to save an argument that you made under a misinterpretation. Why do we have the 1st Amendment? Because the founders wanted to preserve the ability for people to make politically averse opinions in opposition to those in power, not because the founders wanted people to be to somehow able defy the laws of the natural world.

People are fighting for a free and open Internet, because it has value in being able to quick access to important and useful information without restriction, not because of some super-literal definition of "freedom" or because we want it for 0 dollars and 0 cents.

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